Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Learning View Post
Simply saying they are bad players is a shallow and insufficient response.

A better question is why are they bad players that are so focused on their DPS
How do you know that the reason they aren’t pressing cooldowns is because they’re “so focused on their DPS”. You’re providing an equally insufficient response here because you aren’t offering any proof aside from your personal conjecture. At least my saying “they’re bad players” has some grain of truth, because tanks being allergic to CDs predates any sort of focus on tank DPS, which wasn’t a thing until Gordias in HW. Before Gordias, tanks were always in tank stance playing it safe—there was no optimizing of tank damage.

The focus at the high-end is on tank damage now because every other part of their role (enmity, defenses) has been made trivial: ShB tank stance is a joke in terms of its enmity generation; fights are scripted, so you always know when and where you will use which cooldowns. Cooldowns are mapped throughout a fight.

The common denominator to all of these players is their over focus on DPS, why?
Source that this is the common denominator?

I argue it's due to the influence of things like parses, because people want to rank, and they want to beat others, and where they place on FFlogs.
High-purple and orange ranking tanks know how to use their cooldowns. Because they realize if they die, so does their parse. You’d have an argument if we were discussing pre-5.0 tank stance, but we’re discussing defensive cooldowns. The tanks you are describing are not ranking high-purple and orange—because they tend to die to the first buster they take, and their death means the death of any parse/rank they were hoping to achieve.

FFLogs are irrelevant for everything outside of Savage/Ultimate anyways—and let me assure you that the tanks that are worth any sort of high rank don’t suffer from an allergy to CDs.

Am I saying something controversial if I say that people will even alter how a particular fight is done in order to increase their ranking on FFlogs?
Alter the encounter how? Be specific here. Because, right now, the only thing you’re really being is vague.

It trickles down, it trickles down to the average player that just has a parse and feel satisfied they are the top DPS in their particular group.
Even if this trickles down and what you’re saying is correct, that still doesn’t make what I said incorrect. Tanks that won’t use their cooldowns are bad players. There are no if’s, and’s, or but’s about this. No matter how much you try to argue that this is the fault of parsers, which you can’t really prove.