Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
For a lot of people, sure, I agree. Now I'd say aurum Vale isnt too bad, but I've also invested 3000 hours into this game and have progged ultimate fights as well as do savage content. But I remember my first run of bardams mettle, or Aurum Vale, shit was rough, I could barely keep up. I kept with it because I like a challenge though (clearly, right?) But not everyone does, and again, a lot of people only play this game for the story, which is completely fair, so locking the game away from them because they dont want to git gud hardly seems fair. Savage content is there for people who want to push themselves, normal content is meant to be for everyone, including the casuals.
I don't think expecting a certain level of play has anything to do with the "git gud" mentality.

Players wanting to experience the story, and not get into the end-game high level content, or just play casually? That's fine. But this is a two-way street. I'm not saying we should expect EX/Savage levels here, but their needs to be a point where you have to learn about your class rather then pushing buttons, and willing.

As it stands right now, why can someone know nothing about the class they are playing, go into a dungeon, and I have to deal with that hot mess, and I'm the bad guy for not putting up with it, and kicking them?

This falls even flatter on the fact that in any game you are expected to learn, and get better in order to progress. That's a single player thing - in this situation you are holding 3/7/23 other people back because "Lol, I just wanna experience the story, calm down, I play for fun."

End game dungeons, and content in general should require actual team play, not what it is now.
As it stands - as long as the tank can self-heal (PLD, WAR), they can clear level 80 dungeon bosses without a healer.

Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
Go join Suzaku "farm" party in PF... as soon as Colour mechanics kick in and peole have to multitask, your casual level 80 DPS player drops from 6-7k, which in't good but more than enough to clear anyway, to 2-3k instantly lol.
Sad truth being that those players probably don't know they are pushing low numbers.