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    I will never agree to the notion of keeping WHM the 'stupid' of the role. See how well that flows on SMN within caster role lol.

    If people want to play 'simple healer' there's already one in the game: Conjurer. Use that. Or suck it up and play inoptimally on any 4 healers. You don't need to be performing at 101% at all times. That's just unrealistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I will never agree to the notion of keeping WHM the 'stupid' of the role. See how well that flows on SMN within caster role lol.

    If people want to play 'simple healer' there's already one in the game: Conjurer. Use that. Or suck it up and play inoptimally on any 4 healers. You don't need to be performing at 101% at all times. That's just unrealistic.
    It's because the community have shifted the collective opinion to "Anything that loses me even 1 damage per minute is the devil and needs to be purged from the game and never spoken of again".

    Look at all the tanks who reject any suggestion of making their multitude of free healing (not you DRK) a little bit less free. Look at all the healers in PF that kick and scream when you suggest that maybe a GCD heal would be good at some point. Look at all the casters or melee who get annoyed when you ask them to Addle/Feint because they have a minor clip to their GCD.

    The community is so poisoned by the "damage is everything and anything that loses me damage can die in the fire" mindset that it's probably now unsalvageable. To some people, a 95 on the numbers website isn't a good run, it's the baseline.
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    Last edited by Aravell; 09-30-2024 at 12:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    [...]The community is so poisoned by the "damage is everything and anything that loses me damage can die in the fire" mindset that it's probably now unsalvageable. To some people, a 95 on the numbers website isn't a good run, it's the baseline.
    In a hindsight, I don't blame that entirely on the community. The devs plays a huge part in reinforcing this ideal when they keep deleting anything that doesn't come down to as simple as "more damage vs less damage" for whatever reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    In a hindsight, I don't blame that entirely on the community. The devs plays a huge part in reinforcing this ideal when they keep deleting anything that doesn't come down to as simple as "more damage vs less damage" for whatever reason.
    While the devs designed the jobs to enforce this kind of thinking, I can still blame the community for using the funny coloured numbers to boost their own ego or to try and dismiss opposing viewpoints, that kind of attitude can be wholly blamed on the community mentality of "the colour of your number proves your worth as a player".

    See: Mr.Spreadsheet
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