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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Sorry one thing but people still thinking SE would listen to JP only not to NA/EU? Thats such a dumb thinking the Viper Change should show you all Square isnt even listening to JP because nearly nobody wanted the change there.
    They have shown in the past that they don’t really understand or properly look at feedback outside of JP

    An easy example is hypercharge/blood weapon/wildfire. That wasn’t a big complaint in JP because by and large JP players don’t have ping problems due to the small size of the country. However ping is a serious problem outside of JP. Yoshi P wasn’t even aware it was a problem till someone directly bought it up to his face in a fanfest despite it being a super common complaint outside of the JP bubble because it’s one of those changes that everyone agrees with because the at the time existing system had no upsides

    Either they are ignoring/deprioritising non JP feedback or the English/french/german community managers are doing a terrible job passing along actionable feedback to their JP colleagues so the JP team genuinely believes the non JP playerbase is happy. Either one is not good
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    An easy example is hypercharge/blood weapon/wildfire. That wasn’t a big complaint in JP because by and large JP players don’t have ping problems due to the small size of the country. However ping is a serious problem outside of JP. Yoshi P wasn’t even aware it was a problem till someone directly bought it up to his face in a fanfest despite it being a super common complaint outside of the JP bubble because it’s one of those changes that everyone agrees with because the at the time existing system had no upsides
    Another example is that Y-P didn't think that RMT adverts were a big problem, until he did a 'Walk With Yoshi-P' event on an NA server and got blasted by ads constantly
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    I think rather than 'liking', they're closer to being 'indifferent'.

    That's not exactly giving off a good impression either though.
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    It'll never not be funny when people talk about who the dev team listens to.

    EN players will say that they should stop listening exclusively to JP.
    JP players will say that the dev team listens to the west too much.

    The answer is very likely that they don't listen to anyone except their internal team and their metrics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    It'll never not be funny when people talk about who the dev team listens to.

    EN players will say that they should stop listening exclusively to JP.
    JP players will say that the dev team listens to the west too much.

    The answer is very likely that they don't listen to anyone except their internal team and their metrics.
    I'm going with this; Samurai lost Kaiten despite having no complaints, Viper lost Noxious Gnash despite no one complaining about that, and I'm still trying to decipher where they got complaints about Dragoons Nastrond stacks. The only thing I can think of is that the complaints are from internal testers thinking that "someone might find this difficult, so lets fix it early" rather than just leaving the job be and letting people get used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    I'm going with this; Samurai lost Kaiten despite having no complaints, Viper lost Noxious Gnash despite no one complaining about that, and I'm still trying to decipher where they got complaints about Dragoons Nastrond stacks. The only thing I can think of is that the complaints are from internal testers thinking that "someone might find this difficult, so lets fix it early" rather than just leaving the job be and letting people get used to it.
    My theory for DRG is that they had the idea of 'hey DRG is too busy, let's remove Spineshatter cos it's kinda low-excitement as an ability and contributes 2 APM to the opener/burst', which is fine on its own, but then they added Rise of the Dragon/Starcross and instantly invalidated that removal by adding 2 APM to the opener/burst again. So now they've gone and removed 2 Nastronds to get the APM to where it was meant to be in the first place.

    If that's how it went down, the lack of foresight (that adding 2 new OGCD actions would impact APM) is hilarious. If it's not that, then it's just a very strange decision, given that it required buffing Nastrond/Stardiver/Starcross to make them even higher potency to compensate for the two lost Nastronds, which means more super-high potency skills that can be subject to Crit Variance. At least with DRG their burst window includes a Crit Rate increase to slightly alleviate that problem
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    it also seems that they really banking on ultimate for the use of esuna cause I remember a certain user here saying along the lines of "Esuna will be most likely be needed to be used more" and now that we have both the new content, that isn't quite the case really. Only maybe in Jade Stoa if you get hit by the ground exaflares but that's really it. Not the new dungeon or the new alliance raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    it also seems that they really banking on ultimate for the use of esuna cause I remember a certain user here saying along the lines of "Esuna will be most likely be needed to be used more" and now that we have both the new content, that isn't quite the case really. Only maybe in Jade Stoa if you get hit by the ground exaflares but that's really it. Not the new dungeon or the new alliance raid.
    with the new alliance raid it would have made sense there since its now instant... and that raid is very busy, wouldnt have much time to stand in spot and cast it
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Also look at how prevalent that MTTT is starting to become. First we had M1S with raining cats and now we have the ice phase in ex3. Heck even the stack that tries to force the swap with the tethers can still easily be ignored with invulns and of course we have reject authority.
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