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  1. #8521
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    EusisLandale's Avatar
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    Eira Landale
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Wow that would be like 8% of a WAR bloodwhetting aoe heal.
    They'd absolutely force a direct crit heal for that ability, just to make sure the healing was ridiculous on single target as well.
    (1)

  2. #8522
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    sharknado's Avatar
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    Sharknado Shortcake
    World
    Alpha
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Team member logged the fun Tender Valley run I had and it turns out I'm good with mitigation healers:


    The DPS was rather high, last boss got record quick meltdown. WHM pretty sure had zero hardcast heals, million holys. During that run I did hit a lot of party mitigation/regen timings (with mix of job/uncapped tome gear so low).


    Another run, more typical with some screw ups, benes:
    (1)

  3. #8523
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Character
    Alarasong Elaha
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 91
    I had a run as a Warrior with a friend who was on Sage through one of the Expert dungeons. I specifically asked them to not directly heal me at all, ever, and furthermore I would purposefully click off any AoE buffs I picked up.

    Still didn't even come close to breaking a sweat. Pop bloodwhetting on CD and maybe a couple other things in between and good to go. And my WAR is only 697
    (6)

  4. #8524
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    Lak14's Avatar
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    Howard Alt-eisen
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I had a run as a Warrior with a friend who was on Sage through one of the Expert dungeons. I specifically asked them to not directly heal me at all, ever, and furthermore I would purposefully click off any AoE buffs I picked up.

    Still didn't even come close to breaking a sweat. Pop bloodwhetting on CD and maybe a couple other things in between and good to go. And my WAR is only 697
    sir you doing dungeon, it's not rocket science.
    (0)

  5. #8525
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    sir you doing dungeon, it's not rocket science.
    I believe Yoshi P said something about making the game slightly harder. I believe a WAR that can completely self heal without proper mitigation in a dungeon might be slightly brain dead. (Along with the shortest world first savage race in the games history. Lol harder btw)
    (2)

  6. #8526
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I believe Yoshi P said something about making the game slightly harder. I believe a WAR that can completely self heal without proper mitigation in a dungeon might be slightly brain dead. (Along with the shortest world first savage race in the games history. Lol harder btw)
    It must be harder for everybody but WAR is what the devs meant, probably.
    (7)

    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  7. #8527
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    Lak14's Avatar
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    Howard Alt-eisen
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I believe Yoshi P said something about making the game slightly harder. I believe a WAR that can completely self heal without proper mitigation in a dungeon might be slightly brain dead. (Along with the shortest world first savage race in the games history. Lol harder btw)
    only braindead casual player care about healing or mitigation in dungeon.
    (0)

  8. #8528
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    only braindead casual player care about healing or mitigation in dungeon.
    Healers are in such a bad state even the baits are low effort.
    (25)
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  9. #8529
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    Lak14's Avatar
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    Howard Alt-eisen
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Healers are in such a bad state even the baits are low effort.
    bait ? mfs pls look at me, i'm playing on elemental. Do you really think we care about your strike ?
    (0)

  10. #8530
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Character
    Grainne Gothram
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 50
    At least they have the attention seeking part of being a WAR main down.
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