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  1. #7471
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    The issue is that "improvement" is subjective. Just because someone has "experience" playing the role and is investing "unpaid" time doesn't mean any suggestions they make are somehow automatically going to be loved by others. One person's "improvement" can be another person's "disaster."
    Can you please stop with the parroting of your "insert x opinion here" is subjective? It doesn't lend the credence that you think to your argument. Nor does taking my comments out of context, as I stated that I wouldn't expect designs to be just copy/pasted by Square because they actually implement job design changes, I wasn't about to go off on some long, boring soliloquy about how product management works.

    It shows that instead of having any meaningful contribution to the current or past healer discussion, once again, you are more interested in trying to score cheap points in making statements that are basically universally known and require zero effort on your part.
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  2. #7472
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    123 wouldn't work, nor does it work for any class. This is 2005 design that somehow managed to get into this game in the first place. Proc based skills are where it's at as a solution for some healers.

    Also I'd say keep pestering the japanese players, especially when we're very much concerned by the subject too, and only they matter, and they don't seem to care. They're obtuse and rigid on a stratospheric level. They prone understanding their opinions yet they don 't care about the rest of the world.
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  3. #7473
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    It shows that instead of having any meaningful contribution to the current or past healer discussion, once again, you are more interested in trying to score cheap points in making statements that are basically universally known and require zero effort on your part.
    You made a post that is universally known and requires zero effort on the fact many healers have made 'detailed' and 'extensive' suggestions and Striker44 (correctly) points out the obvious that many of these suggestions are terrible and experience in the role is not synonymous with valid suggestions and now you're saying his post has no meaningful contribution.

    Pointing out nonsense is a valid contribution.
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  4. #7474
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerkatie View Post
    You made a post that is universally known and requires zero effort on the fact many healers have made 'detailed' and 'extensive' suggestions and Striker44 (correctly) points out the obvious that many of these suggestions are terrible and experience in the role is not synonymous with valid suggestions and now you're saying his post has no meaningful contribution.

    Pointing out nonsense is a valid contribution.
    Here' let me point out this to you https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6517505

    Next, let me point out that before you post something that is a garbled and jumbled, misquoted trainwreck, might I suggest that you may just want to actually read some of the posts that I referred to before you actually throw around judgements like "terrible".
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  5. #7475
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Here' let me point out this to you https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6517505

    Next, let me point out that before you post something that is a garbled and jumbled, misquoted trainwreck, might I suggest that you may just want to actually read some of the posts that I referred to before you actually throw around judgements like "terrible".
    I bet you're a blast at parties
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  6. #7476
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    I'm surprised JP players could find the time to tell NA/EU playerbase to get over the healer roles' easiness/boringness between their complaining over how impossible the Wuk Lamat duty fight was to beat and how they just cannot raid without their cheats n' plogons updated.
    Is it possible for you to share the thread ? I' m curious to see what they're finding difficult lol.
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  7. #7477
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Next, let me point out that before you post something that is a garbled and jumbled, misquoted trainwreck, might I suggest that you may just want to actually read some of the posts that I referred to before you actually throw around judgements like "terrible".
    I love that instead of responding to any points raised you instead once again tried to sound smart, spoke nonsense and quoted what is obviously a meme because you genuinely think it makes your point stronger. Somehow Striker44 is the one with failed contributions.

    You seem to have a complex where you think belittling statements of those with valid criticism of your complete nonsense is making you sound smart.
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    Last edited by flowerkatie; 07-23-2024 at 06:50 AM.

  8. #7478
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerkatie View Post
    I love that instead of responding to any points raised you instead once again tried to sound smart, spoke nonsense and quoted what is obviously a meme because you genuinely think it makes your point stronger. Somehow Striker44 is the one with failed contributions.

    You seem to have a complex where you think belittling statements of those with valid criticism of your complete nonsense is making you sound smart.
    Surely there's a better way to state these thoughts than throwing stones in a glass house...
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  9. #7479
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    Libitina Incarne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozmandis View Post
    Is it possible for you to share the thread ? I' m curious to see what they're finding difficult lol.
    Wuk has the lowest sustain of every single "roleplay" solo instance because they decided to give her an unbuffed Thrill of Battle instead of Equilibrium or Bloodwhetting. Every other solo instance (not including the Alphinaud and Urianger ones because they are literally healers) is a Black Mage with Cure II, a Red Mage with a buffed Vercure, a Samurai with a buffed Second Wind and a healer NPC as backup, or you have a restoration potion on a relatively short cooldown that fully restores your health.
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  10. #7480
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khutulun View Post
    Surely there's a better way to state these thoughts than throwing stones in a glass house...
    If you serve something out be prepared for it to be dished back to you, call it a glass house but it makes the points no less valid.
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