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  1. #7961
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Honestly, same.

    Until they actually do it, everything seems like a damage control effort-speech.
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  2. #7962
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    Ayalu's Avatar
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    I mean they openly admitted they went to far with the simplification but cant dial back multiple expansions worth of changed in a patch. But i agree with Rein there.
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  3. #7963
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    There is literally nothing stopping them from fixing it all aside from them not doing their job.

    Might make 7.1 take a bit longer, but I rather them take their time to make the game great instead of just continuing into mediocrity.
    (6)

  4. #7964
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    I mean they openly admitted they went to far with the simplification but cant dial back multiple expansions worth of changed in a patch. But i agree with Rein there.
    They can do it patch by patch.
    Start with healers and tanks throughout Dawntrail then next expansion we have DPS getting changed starting with Phys ranged.
    Unless dawntrail's content patch by patch proves to be on another level compared to previous expansions this will be one of the most mid expansions ever considering how bad the 90-100 abilities have been.
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  5. #7965
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Neither is just damage and team jump rope.... kind of the point. That bland system is killing any kind of fun or diversity in jobs. It all comes down to those two things.

    That is the encounter design.
    The DPS thing solely rests on the shoulders of meta slaves who screamed off the top of their lungs that some comps are not viable or certain skills are not worthy of being pressed so that is the logical end result. It's all about raw efficiency to the detriment of literally anything else. Nowadays it's considered novel if a dungeon has a room in-between a corridor. It's kinda funny.
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  6. #7966
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    I mean they openly admitted they went to far with the simplification but cant dial back multiple expansions worth of changed in a patch. But i agree with Rein there.
    sure... as much as I like Yoshi P, how many times before has he done corpo speak just to placate the players?

    I dont think he is as in touch with where the game is as much as we think or even he thinks he is.

    and while sure, he DID imply that.. it was definitely not an indication they were changing direction.


    "Yoshida (reflecting on the fan festival): So from now on, we'll keep working to surprise players and go beyond what they imagine. But that reminds me of something I regret… as we've continued to operate FF14, we've made the game more comfortable, a game you can play without stress. But looking back on the last 10 years, I'm thinking we've overdone that a bit.

    Most Importantly came just after

    Yoshida: Speaking of FF14, I would like to restore that part a little bit. If we do that, we can give everyone a better challenge, in a good way, than ever before. "

    sure, HE WOULD LIKE to restore it"a little bit" but there is no guarantee. there is a lot of vagueness there, he is just spitballing and there is no solid indication that things will change... at all.
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  7. #7967
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    They can do it patch by patch.
    Start with healers and tanks throughout Dawntrail then next expansion we have DPS getting changed starting with Phys ranged.
    Unless dawntrail's content patch by patch proves to be on another level compared to previous expansions this will be one of the most mid expansions ever considering how bad the 90-100 abilities have been.
    Definitely should start with Healers... They kinda have the most issues...

    Tanks are generally fine, but they could definitely be given some more individual identity... Bringing back the physical damage and magic damage split to the tanks would be a strong start in that direction, if the team designing fights did their jobs and actually used some variety in boss design.
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  8. #7968
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    Ayalu's Avatar
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Moogle
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    Well if they stick with there plan to have no more leveling in the game meaning level 100 is the End.
    They cant continue as it is now anyway so my hope is that there reason for not doing much right now is that they want to do it in one swing to align the classes with the new non level progression system what ever it is.

    Of course i think they should do it with patches before as 2 years of nothing isnt feasible.
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  9. #7969
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    I would say there is room for more levels. Because I think ARR being from level 1 to 50 is kind of excessive nowadays... I think they themselves kind of realized how excessive it was back all the way in Heavensward, as the plan was more or less for 20 levels per expansion, but they squished it down to 10 and the squished down 10 levels became the norm.

    But they could probably squish ARR down to like 30 levels instead of 50, dropping the current max to 80 instead of 100.
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  10. #7970
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    But from what we know that isnt the plan and they dont want to do any squishes anymore.
    And that would only delay there problem not stop it from appearing.
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