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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Stopping you there. That is cheating and cheesing.

    It's the never ending argument on this forum between people who want to play the game the way it was intended, and the people who play the cat and mouse game of "am I going to get caught cheating the new raid."
    https://www.polygon.com/23581166/fin...-party-plug-in

    This has happened every single time. If you got a bunch of people who want to cheese the fight by only permissible means, that is one thing. But the minute you need a third party tool, you're no longer playing the game as it was intended and defying the wishes of the developers.

    If you want to play a healer. You are only required to heal. Nobody anything says is correct no matter how much they insist. That sure is a boring way to play, but you're not obligated to play by any nonsense meta that has never been true.
    I'm going to do my best not to appear rude here, but I think your moral/emotional arguement is being pushed up agains ForsakenRoe's Logical arguement. Its not a "meta" requirement, they're referencing, its a DPS-CHECK requirement.

    The DPS Checks in this game are mostly lenient where, yes, a Healer could succeeed without doing DPS - but at the Savage level (on Content & no echo) and at the Ultimate Level (at any time), you can't meet the DPS check before Enrage if Healers are just healing. They are correct in that it is mathmatically impossible to achieve without each member of the group contributing damage - including healers. You can call it cheating to know that it is mathmaticallly impossible (or close to it, depending on the case), but that is generally well-accepted knowledge by the average player who actively participates in the raiding content this game offers - even those who swear off of all add-ons.

    Your lack of experience in the game is why you are championing the cause of Healers only need to heal. The Developers shifted the DPS requirements of content to require support players to also focus on damage back prior to Heavensward (Time line might be a little wrong, its been 10 years so cut me some slack), because of Player Demand - and it has been that way ever since. This bred the well known meme, healers are Green DPS. Tanks are Blue DPS.

    Lets not get uppity and big-ego'd because we disagree emotionally with something. Base your rebuttals on something more substantial than "This is my belief" for a more constructive and objective-based discussion.

    Othewise, you're just shouting into the void for no discernable reason other than to be upset with other people... and that's just obnoxious I'm sure you agree! I've done it plenty of times. I'm a very obnoxious person.

    Anyway, o7
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    Last edited by Dhregin; 07-20-2024 at 01:41 AM.