#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[CaptainLagbeard]

Tanks aren’t obsolete for the single reason that in casual content they are the only ones who can effortlessly hold all agro and function without the other roles

In a dungeon a 1T3D is infinitely preferable to 1h3d and in a raid 4t4d is better than 4h4d

I would like to see someone try to do a dungeon with a DRK and 3 DPS (without RDM for Vercure) to show that Tanks aren't obsolete, and it's not that WAR or PLD can double as a healer.

Alternatively, if you wanted to see if they indeed are, you could try to pull off doing a dungeon with 4 RDM, if I am correct they should be able to just facetank the boss and Vercure each other back up.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I would like to see someone try to do a dungeon with a DRK and 3 DPS (without RDM for Vercure) to show that Tanks aren't obsolete.

Alternatively, if you wanted to see if they indeed are, you could try to pull off doing a dungeon with 4 RDM, if I am correct they should be able to just facetank the boss and Vercure each other back up.

part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCy-PkLgZ68
part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zttiIWIZsaA

I have wrote this somewhere before that explains the tl;dr of these two vids:

That 1DRK + 3DPS endeavor was run with MINE in the following duties:

1. Holminster Switch - no completion time data.
2. Amaurot - 15:58
3. Bardam's Mettle - 14:57
4. The Tower of Zot - 22:03 (wipe once on last boss, cleared in 2nd pull)
5. Dohn Mheg - 15:17 (also no interrupt/interject used on Fuath)
6. Mt. Gulg - 15:36 (with first megapull of 5 packs & last megapull, NO wipes on both.)
7. Shisui of the Violet Tides - 12:30 (wipe once on megapull after 1st boss)
8. Doma Castle - 15:39 (wipe once on megapull after 1st boss)
9. The Qitana Ravel - 20:25 (wipe once on last megapull)

All of these dungeons are filled with more commonly known "hard to heal by DF healer"-pulls. Again, with MINE active. It's not a situation you'll realistically see in daily DF runs - that's the equivalent of not wearing all gears obtained from first playthrough of MSQ on all 4 participants. It was far from a series of perfect runs. That low of a collective HPS was all that's needed, let that sink in. It should NOT even be a thing ideally.

[CaptainLagbeard]

part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCy-PkLgZ68
part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zttiIWIZsaA

I have wrote this somewhere before that explains the tl;dr of these two vids:

Those are pretty far from normal dungeon run times... If it was purely a case of heals not being needed, it should be faster than a normal 1t, 1h, 2d run at Min ilvl (dungeons don't have echo) because you're replacing the lower damage healer with a DPS.

[Katish]

Those are pretty far from normal dungeon run times... If it was purely a case of heals not being needed, it should be faster than a normal 1t, 1h, 2d run at Min ilvl (dungeons don't have echo) because you're replacing the lower damage healer with a DPS.

No actually, it was faster have you tried min ilvl? Min ilvl is BELOW questing gear, and your level is synced to the minimum for the dungeon, you have to manually queue for it. Another thing is, I had to hold as DRK to prolong the invuln any other tank would have made it go that much faster, and even then it was faster...now with the new sustain I might not even need to wait in LD. Which means, at 90+ drk can satisfy continuous damage like the other tanks. So the point does get it across quite well, as I chose drk for being the squishier tank. Any tank can full pull without a healer...And the more sustain, the less need for a healer obviously, the less need for a healer the quicker the dungeon. This not limited to only dungeons though, I ran some healerless extremes as well. Waiting for those uploads....quickiest extremes ever, right before maintenance.