#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[CaptainLagbeard]

Job Balance hasn't ever been perfect, but the current state of things is a complete lack of balance as healers barely count as a role...

As for WHM/AST... I suppose it's just the general bad design of certain things on the job, with stuff like useless cards (10% more overhealing is such a strong effect) and Earthly Star sometimes refusing to place itself down unless you try to set it down like 5 times.

[Xurtan]

It's an interesting issue all around, because I think in a vacuum damage and fight difficulty HAS gone up. The problem is we keep getting OVERLOADED with healing and mitigation each expansion, with traits enhancing them all. Not only that, but DPS are getting group heals or have group shields, tanks can ALSO group shield or have shields/heals, and just... it's a lot. If I need to GCD heal it's pretty much just because things have gone really wrong, or I'm essentially solo healing. We really shouldn't need to only have one person healing to actually have any fun in this game. I'm not sure what the solution is, interesting class design is something that FFXIV was never HUGE on but even the bits of it we had have been carved away bit by bit over the years. There need to be fewer mitigations and heals across the entire job base, and we probably need abilities that force us to actually make decisions for what is most useful at a given point, plus kits that interact with each other. e.g, even if it's just 'You cast 4 damage spells and can then burn these 'stacks' on a higher damage hit OR a heal OR a buff' or something, that's still... nuance? Sure, there's always going to be an "objectively best", but the balance in this game is really tight in comparison to most others as it is. It's never going to be PERFECT. The way fights and dungeons are designed has a focus on healers DPSing, and that's fine - but give us more than 1, sometimes 2, buttons to do it with. Look at Vanguard's Blood Mage, look at WAR's Disciple of Khaine or Warrior Priest, the Friar in DAOC, the Medic in Wildstar, etc etc. Good healing kits are totally possible.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Lucy Pyre mentioned our thread in her latest video. She breaks down everything wrong with the current state of FFXIV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcQfbShd4bM

[Mawlzy]

Lucy Pyre mentioned our thread in her latest video. She breaks down everything wrong with the current state of FFXIV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcQfbShd4bM

Unfortunate that her ideas are presented in that ridiculous voice.

[ForsakenRoe]

Lucy Pyre mentioned our thread in her latest video. She breaks down everything wrong with the current state of FFXIV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcQfbShd4bM

Her mentioning how some people are 'ride or die' defenders of SE and the current status quo jogged my memory a bit. About how 'Great Community BTW' the 'GCBTW can act at times...

For example: You guys remember when someone thought it'd be a good idea to make a spreadsheet that categorized how harcore/casual each of the people in this thread are?

[Absurdity]

For example: You guys remember when someone thought it'd be a good idea to make a spreadsheet that categorized how harcore/casual each of the people in this thread are?

I remember that one, and I put it on about the same level as "Creating a stalking plugin because someone undercut you by 1 gil a few too many times" on my "Go touch some god damn grass"-scale.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Her mentioning how some people are 'ride or die' defenders of SE and the current status quo jogged my memory a bit. About how 'Great Community BTW' the 'GCBTW can act at times...

For example: You guys remember when someone thought it'd be a good idea to make a spreadsheet that categorized how harcore/casual each of the people in this thread are?

Oh yeah, I remember. I was astonished how much effort that individual made to discount the posters in this thread. That player had to be mentally unwell.

Oh well...

[Azurarok]

Well, there is now an FRU clear without tanks (3H5D) so that's neat

[Yeol]

Well, there is now an FRU clear without tanks (3H5D) so that's neat

https://youtu.be/8dwozkUeh04?si=7KQYndQFuzwD9Gf4

[Rithy255]

Well, there is now an FRU clear without tanks (3H5D) so that's neat

I'm really not the surpised.
I feel like the people pointing at tanks being the issue with healer design need to realise about 80% of the issue is encounter design itself and not fully issues with tanks.

to go over what I've already said a thousand times on this forum, I do think theirs obviously some parts tanks do play in healer issues such as the obvious tanks strong mitigative and self healing values (with the most obvious example of that being warrior) but I think the Larger issue has always been with the content itself not even utilising our tank or healer kits properly.

I don't think this can be argued anymore as a simple matter of "remove x from tanks" it's we need to actually overhaul both so they play into each other correctly, but also most importantly this should point out that encounter design really should have more importance on role design.