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  1. #6171
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    Ketojan's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Sanaa Vhenan
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
    I'm not against changes. I do think healers should have more interesting dps kits etc.

    I'm not against playing healer. I play all three roles casually depending on my whims and what my friends need for roulettes on a given day.

    And I'm not against strikes. You know, real strikes. Like the recent writer/actor strikes. 100% behind those. People putting real effort into real causes that matter, for better working conditions and wages they deserve.

    I mock this 'strike' because it's silly. It's dumb. Because it's dramatic clickbait nonsense that might get a quick article or youtube video made during a content downtime, but is ultimately doomed to failure. Today is the day the strike was 'officially' supposed to start and I saw no difference in any of my roulette times as healer or tank. As expected the actual strike is turning out to be a wet fart.
    I get you think it’s silly, but that seems because you are comparing it to something you feel is worthy. But is my enjoyment not worthy? We all play this game to have fun, it’s the point of a video game, but if I’m not having fun on the role I loved, can we try to do something about it? I just think in this case if you don’t like the strike because it’s silly and dumb, then you can easily ignore it. It won’t affect you, as many are determined to remind us the strike isn’t effective.

    Again I implore non healers to give healing a try. Maybe you’ll find you really enjoy it, or maybe you will finally understand what we are saying for 6 years.
    (7)

  2. #6172
    Player
    Connor's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Connor Whelan
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Outside of the VERY few buttons that aren't 1 to 1, my entire set of hotbars are identical. This is where my AoE goes, this is where my oGCD AoE goes... This is my single target oGCD... It's depressing.
    It’s gets even worse when you compare pure/shield healers with together and start to realize not only that they’re essentially all the same buttons, but the fact they’ve blatantly copy+pasted so many abilities between jobs. I mean, Scholar and Sage are practically the same job at this point with the amount of abilities copy+pasted between them lol. And nobody will ever convince Macrocosmos and Litany of the Bell aren’t literally the same thing just with different timings; a non/minimal-dps-loss healing tool used when taking large amounts of damage in quick, regular intervals (i.e Harrowing Hell).

    What’s more hilarious is that when they don’t blatantly copy-paste skills and try to make unique ones…well, we end up with questionable abilities (to put it politely) like Baneful Impaction, Seraphism or the new Astrologian cards lol. It’s no wonder people want to leave the role entirely when your options for abilities boil down to ‘take it from someone else’ or ‘get something useless and/or tonally dissonant from everything that came before’
    (5)

  3. #6173
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    TsubameMikage's Avatar
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    Celes Miret-njer
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 15
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Outside of the VERY few buttons that aren't 1 to 1, my entire set of hotbars are identical. This is where my AoE goes, this is where my oGCD AoE goes... This is my single target oGCD... It's depressing.
    that's how I play too
    (4)

  4. #6174
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    aiqa's Avatar
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    Character
    Eleasaid Seraqa
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
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    This has been in the opening post since I read it weeks ago: "This strike is a protest. As such, it is not intended to disrupt the game or the players who have subscribed to FFXIV."

    Complaining the strike isn't disruptive enough, is completely missing the point.
    (16)

  5. #6175
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    SaltyDaddy's Avatar
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    Character
    Salty Daddy
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    So healers wanna see more damage buttons and less party mitigations/selfheals?

    And then we see wipes, because little white mage here wanted to press one more DPS button. Just no. If you have bigger DPS toolkit, you are expected to use it and then its more likely to see people wipe because of it. Its funny, that healers are always the biggest crybabies in the game. First, they had it too hard. Now its too simple. And majority of the crybabies are people who never did anything harder than normal raids. Like what. Why this bonkers thread have already 600+ pages? Are you all crazy?

    Go touch grass or go play DPS. We havent even seen yet how much damage will this Savage gonna brings and nobody cares about your strike. I have insta quee as tank and long quee as healer, so I can only laugh.
    (4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I would suggest to just use the free login campaigns for doing MSQ. No point in paying at all.

  6. #6176
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    So healers wanna see more damage buttons and less party mitigations/selfheals?

    And then we see wipes, because little white mage here wanted to press one more DPS button. Just no. If you have bigger DPS toolkit, you are expected to use it and then its more likely to see people wipe because of it. Its funny, that healers are always the biggest crybabies in the game. First, they had it too hard. Now its too simple. And majority of the crybabies are people who never did anything harder than normal raids. Like what. Why this bonkers thread have already 600+ pages? Are you all crazy?

    Go touch grass or go play DPS. We havent even seen yet how much damage will this Savage gonna brings and nobody cares about your strike. I have insta quee as tank and long quee as healer, so I can only laugh.
    Oh please. The kind of sub-casual tier healer that would struggle with a single button extra isn't pushing their DPS buttons in the first place. Stop making up boogeymen when even the casual players are saying "THIS SUCKS!"

    Also there are several Ultimate raiders in here who also agree. THIS. SUCKS.
    (22)

  7. #6177
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    Ryaduera's Avatar
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    Character
    Ryaduera Tengille
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    My FAVORITE so far has been people saying "Go play DPS then"

    They are. That's what this thread is. That is what they are doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by People that don't play healers
    Healers are fine! Go play DPS if you don't like it
    (20)
    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

  8. #6178
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    I think my gameplay in leveling roulette should be fun.
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

  9. #6179
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Character
    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I wonder how many times the absolute geniuses have said "If you don't want to just mash one button, go play DPS."

    I wouldn't recommend someone combing through 600 pages to find all those single digit IQ individuals.


    And as for going to DPS... Some healers did, I have gone through the MSQ as a Bard, because I do like the more support oriented role, and even Bard has more complexity than healers.
    (10)

  10. #6180
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    TsubameMikage's Avatar
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    Character
    Celes Miret-njer
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 15
    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    If you have bigger DPS toolkit, you are expected to use it
    Your logic is inconsistent.

    Healers are already expected to use their DPS kit, and if the issue is "you should be using all your kit all the time" - then why isn't that true for healing, as well? I, and others, literally don't have the majority of our heal spells on our bars because they're not needed.

    If we're don't have to heal, and we're not going to be able to have engaging DPS gameplay, why on earth do we exist?

    Go touch grass or go play DPS.
    Thank you for your support and understanding of what our strike is meant to do.


    We havent even seen yet how much damage will this Savage gonna brings
    Most players don't touch savage, or even extremes. Not that this issue doesn't persist there either.

    nobody cares about your strike.
    And yet here you are, showing your support. Thank you!


    I have insta quee as tank and long quee as healer, so I can only laugh.
    And thank you for queuing as healer so we don't have to, we appreciate it.
    (13)

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