#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[SargeTheSeagull]

I mean.... I'm not a healer main but I value and appreciate healers mains in any content that I do. So I'm not sure what's up. When I play healers, it seems fine. They have added gap closer to healer job so they don't explode more easily in savage raids. I mean if healers die in a savage content it's a straight up GG. Devs beefed up astro with 3 card sets, which is nice. Scholar is still scholar. They shield when necessary and dps throughout the rest of the fight. White mage still white mage, OgCD heals to get everyone topped up and then glare 3 throughout the fight. If you want healers to do more damage then they will just become actual dps, if that's the case. You might as well go play a dps role. But hey, if you guys want to stop playing ff14 just because of some changes that makes it too easy to play...? Then yeah so be it. Another person will take your place as a healer because healers are always in need. Also sweet as for me. Easier queue times when I play healer (I'm going to need faster queues to level all my healers from 90 to 100)

P.S: I wish you guys all the best with the strike. Good luck!

Literally none of that is the point. The point is it isn’t fun mashing glare/malefic/broil/dosis 130+ times in ALL forms of content.

If the devs want to keep healing requirements low for casuals that’s fine, but we need more DPS buttons like we had before ShB.

If the devs want to increase healing requirements so we actually have to use GCD heals so we feel like healers, awesome.

But refusing to do either of these just won’t do.

[Aravell]

If the devs want to keep healing requirements low for casuals that’s fine, but we need more DPS buttons like we had before ShB.

If the devs want to increase healing requirements so we actually have to use GCD heals so we feel like healers, awesome.

But refusing to do either of these just won’t do.

Oh, the devs definitely did both. But they did it in the worst, most spiteful manner possible.

We ask for more damage buttons to press? They give us extra buttons to press, but on a 120s CD, and not on the GCD so it does absolutely nothing to break up filler nuke spam.

We ask for higher healing requirements? They give us higher damage fights, but every other role also gets to heal and mitigate so we heal just about as much as we already do (or even less in casual content).

[Kacho_Nacho]

The problem is that War players insist *everything* is part of their job identity.
There's a reason War choked out every niche in the tank role.

They think they're too angry to die (Being immortal) is their job identity.
They also think, that big healing is War's job identity.
For some reason, War also needs to do big damage according to War players.
But it also needs to have the best invuln. So yeah, there's just nothing left.

This is a very insightful post. This thread had received a lot of pushback from warriors because we've been pointing out the elephant in the room.

Anyone looking at the job from a detached point of view can see warriors need to be nerfed for the good of the game as a whole. Not only do they significantly diminish the contribution of healers, the overpoweredness of warriors is unfair to players of other tanks. This is especially true for dark knights, who've had to watch their abilities be taken away only to have better versions of those abilities be given to warriors later.

Here's how I think tanks should be.

1. Warriors = Abilities which boost health and damage temporarily through rage. Needs extra healing after health buff wears off.
2. Paladins = Strong mitigation combined with abilities to protect the party. Does less damage than the other tanks.
3. Dark Knights = Abilities which recover health from damage along with devastating attacks. Has to balance between using their MP to recover health or using it for their special attacks.
4. Gunbreakers = Mobility and high APM play focused on weak mitigation and quick attacks. Balanced between using their MP for mobility to get in and out of harm's way, applying weak mitigation, or quick combos.

[SoloD007]

Literally none of that is the point. The point is it isn’t fun mashing glare/malefic/broil/dosis 130+ times in ALL forms of content.

If the devs want to keep healing requirements low for casuals that’s fine, but we need more DPS buttons like we had before ShB.

If the devs want to increase healing requirements so we actually have to use GCD heals so we feel like healers, awesome.

But refusing to do either of these just won’t do.

I have friends who are healer main like Sage, scholar etc and they don't mind the changes. They will still play the role because they like the job that they play. In terms of mashing glare/malefic/broil/ dosis etc. I mean i don't know.... do you healers want a midare setsugekka or spam fire 4 like a black mage and stressing over timers? I think spamming a skill is just part of the norm. Because at the end of the day. Clearing content is the end goal.

[LynxDubh]

I have friends who are healer main like Sage, scholar etc and they don't mind the changes. They will still play the role because they like the job that they play. In terms of mashing glare/malefic/broil/ dosis etc. I mean i don't know.... do you healers want a midare setsugekka or spam fire 4 like a black mage and stressing over timers? I think spamming a skill is just part of the norm. Because at the end of the day. Clearing content is the end goal.

Just because something is the norm, does not mean it should not be changed. Clearing content should not be the end goal, having fun playing the game should be the goal. This is a game about overcoming obstacles and enjoying that journey. People want to be engaged with the healer role, and it's obviously lacking for a part of the population.

[SoloD007]

Also I want to make a note here. Like players who main bard has it worse imo. Because their personal dps is almost non-existent compared to other dps roles but I seen pretty high end bard players (few but still there). They play bard because they enjoy the job. Xeno can survive without healers is because he's know the ins/out of a warrior, just like I know the ins/out of a samurai. So yeah, I still don't know what's up. When SE nerfed samurai dps to be lower than a ninja in Endwalker, it was rough but there was no need to go on a strike because it was still fun to play even if I was just spamming midare setsugekka + Kaeshi: setsugekka which is equivalent of spamming glare/dosis/malefic/broil etc etc.

[Supersnow845]

Also I want to make a note here. Like players who main bard has it worse imo. Because their personal dps is almost non-existent compared to other dps roles but I seen pretty high end bard players (few but still there). They play bard because they enjoy the job. Xeno can survive without healers is because he's know the ins/out of a warrior, just like I know the ins/out of a samurai. So yeah, I still don't know what's up. When SE nerfed samurai dps to be lower than a ninja in Endwalker, it was rough but there was no need to go on a strike because it was still fun to play even if I was just spamming midare setsugekka + Kaeshi: setsugekka which is equivalent of spamming glare/dosis/malefic/broil etc etc.

As a samurai you don’t press a single button more than 20% of the time in savage

We can press broil up to 80% of the time

It isn’t remotely comparable

And BRD isn’t comparable either because BRD has strong buffs and still has an interesting rotation

[Galvuu]

Also I want to make a note here. Like players who main bard has it worse imo. Because their personal dps is almost non-existent compared to other dps roles but I seen pretty high end bard players (few but still there). They play bard because they enjoy the job. Xeno can survive without healers is because he's know the ins/out of a warrior, just like I know the ins/out of a samurai. So yeah, I still don't know what's up. When SE nerfed samurai dps to be lower than a ninja in Endwalker, it was rough but there was no need to go on a strike because it was still fun to play even if I was just spamming midare setsugekka + Kaeshi: setsugekka which is equivalent of spamming glare/dosis/malefic/broil etc etc.

Samurai is in all the fastest clears of all Anabaseios Savage floors. Samurai are tied for highest adps job in EW (tied with BLM), and I believe they also come ahead of Ninja in rdps.
If you're playing your Samurai by pressing mostly 2 buttons, I don't know what you're doing.

[SoloD007]

Just because something is the norm, does not mean it should not be changed. Clearing content should not be the end goal, having fun playing the game should be the goal. This is a game about overcoming obstacles and enjoying that journey. People want to be engaged with the healer role, and it's obviously lacking for a part of the population.

Sure, having fun in a job you play is a goal but having fun in a job also falls on the player themselves. You can't put 100% of responsibility on devs. I doubt the devs wake up everyday and think "hmmm... how can I screw with all the healer mains in the game". Like come on this isn't world of warcraft. So I think people who are truly unhappy with healer job should change their mindset instead and find ways to make healer job that you play more fun. Because there are many other healer mains that is still having fun with their healer jobs even with these new changes.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Also I want to make a note here. Like players who main bard has it worse imo. Because their personal dps is almost non-existent compared to other dps roles but I seen pretty high end bard players (few but still there). They play bard because they enjoy the job. Xeno can survive without healers is because he's know the ins/out of a warrior, just like I know the ins/out of a samurai. So yeah, I still don't know what's up. When SE nerfed samurai dps to be lower than a ninja in Endwalker, it was rough but there was no need to go on a strike because it was still fun to play even if I was just spamming midare setsugekka + Kaeshi: setsugekka which is equivalent of spamming glare/dosis/malefic/broil etc etc.

Let me know how do you "spam" Midare & Kaeshi as frequent as spamming Glaroilficosis. Tell me about this super sikkrit technique to spam your Midare 22 times in a minute.