#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Isala]

You know, I was talking about the healer "changes" in Dawntrail with a friend, and he was like "Man. ARR Conjurer had more of a DPS rotation at 30 than your White Mage has now." And while I can't pull that up in Google to prove it, I did find something that makes me giggle about how much people claim that current healers are good game design. Specifically this leveling Conjurer from early ARR in this thread. https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion...t-20ish-levels

And the quote in question?

I played to level 18 and was getting so bored of the combat. Stone, Aero, Stone, Stone, Stone, Stone, Stone, Stone, Heal (I think those are the spell names, haven't played since Phase 3). Then Protect every 30min. Maybe a stance change if I group.

I love the storytelling, the graphics, and the ambience, but I just cannot get over how boring combat is for those first 15 levels. I get that I'm a healing character, but throw me a bone to engage me in some more interesting gameplay mechanics. I feel like everything in this game is well designed except for combat.

So tell me, o defenders of the slop. Why is it, in 2013, a leveling Conjurer can point out how absolutely miserable it is to play like that, yet people will literally trip over themselves to claim that it's such an enjoyable experience to be doing the exact same thing at level 80, 90, 100.

[Ramiee]

You know, I was talking about the healer "changes" in Dawntrail with a friend, and he was like "Man. ARR Conjurer had more of a DPS rotation at 30 than your White Mage has now." And while I can't pull that up in Google to prove it, I did find something that makes me giggle about how much people claim that current healers are good game design. Specifically this leveling Conjurer from early ARR in this thread. https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion...t-20ish-levels

And the quote in question?



So tell me, o defenders of the slop. Why is it, in 2013, a leveling Conjurer can point out how absolutely miserable it is to play like that, yet people will literally trip over themselves to claim that it's such an enjoyable experience to be doing the exact same thing at level 80, 90, 100.

Cus JP players think healers should only heal and CBU3 saw JP healers having low playerbase then decided to rework the entire role to appeal to JP players. Most Western MMO players for this genre find this really dumb, even holy priest in 2014 had more DPS spells (also spent more time healing lol) then current XIV healers. Its why JP healers got mad over double dot with Sage, their culture believes everyone should do their Job. Its even why im super curious if tank got the same treatment if they would feel the same way or be hypocrits. But yeah cultural issues tbh JP don't like western styled mmo healers and westerners who are scared of challenge also don't like healer with DPS balance.
I will say that healers do get harrassed more than other roles in all MMOs because they're an easy out but its not like current healers in XIV don't get shit for being bad at their role.

[rawker]

You know, I was talking about the healer "changes" in Dawntrail with a friend, and he was like "Man. ARR Conjurer had more of a DPS rotation at 30 than your White Mage has now."

From what I can recall:

1. Stone
2. Stone 2
3. Aero
4. Aero 2

So yeah.. even a CNJ way back in ARR had more dps spells and depth than a level 100 WHM in DT.

Edit. Not sure but i think CNJ can also make use of some THM spells up to Blizzard 2... even Thunder.

[Fawkes]

From what I can recall:

1. Stone
2. Stone 2
3. Aero
4. Aero 2

So yeah.. even a CNJ way back in ARR had more dps spells and depth than a level 100 WHM in DT.

Fluid Aura

[rawker]

Fluid Aura

What's that? Lols

[Silver-Strider]

What's that? Lols

You laugh but yeeting T9 Golems with Fluid Aura was a joy I will never be able to recreate.

[Isala]

From what I can recall:

1. Stone
2. Stone 2
3. Aero
4. Aero 2

So yeah.. even a CNJ way back in ARR had more dps spells and depth than a level 100 WHM in DT.

Edit. Not sure but i think CNJ can also make use of some THM spells up to Blizzard 2... even Thunder.

Wiki says Thunder pre 2.1, Blizzard 2, Ruin, and even Mercy Stroke for some reason. On top of like every DPS cooldown.

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Additional_action

So, yeah. There we have it. Amazing job design we have now, so that the literal training wheels version of White Mage had a more meaningful DPS toolkit.

[Galvuu]

trolling or not, he basically got served his own cooking and he hated it XD

Their character doesn't even have a single job at level 90.
It's either someone posting on an alt to incite discord and bait people into derailing the thread, or you're talking to someone who literally didn't play EW in any capacity- not even DoL or DoH.