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  1. #6491
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Local_Custard View Post
    Is it possible to play content without tanks or healers? It could theoretically be possible to do content with just dps if we can manage to outdamage everything before we die. Though, there is more damage in DT so I'm not entirely sure what DPS composition would work if at all for this.
    All DPS probably not. You could do regular dungeons with 1 tank 3 dps no healer, and you could do ex/savage/ultimate if you are really good, with just one healer rather then two.

    You can do 8 man content with no healer technically, but you're group needs to be real good and it's more of a challenge run then something that could ever feasibly be common
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    Last edited by Rolder50; 07-08-2024 at 03:41 PM.

  2. #6492
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaIggy View Post
    Careful they have a discord and will mass report you to get you banned from the forums. Contrary opinions are not welcome here, which is a big part of why I won't support his movement. So far those in charge have just been down right rude and nasty to anyone who has disagreed with them. Added all of them to a forum ignore and really wish that extended to black list in the game at this point.
    The discord has literally never mass reported anyone

    What is it with people throwing out baseless “they are all toxic” claims while being incredibly toxic themselves
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #6493
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The discord has literally never mass reported anyone

    What is it with people throwing out baseless “they are all toxic” claims while being incredibly toxic themselves
    Because why engage with counterpoints when they could just poison the well instead?

    Between the accusations of mass reports against dissenting opinions (no evidence for this by the way) and people claiming to support the strike by being a menace in DF (the fact they queued for DF with randoms as a healer already means they aren't striking), people just want to stir up trouble without actually looking into things themselves.

    Why think for yourself when you could just parrot your favourite content creator? Why concede that maybe the strike has a point when you could just poison the well? Why would you be civil and say "I merely disagree and find the healers fine" when you could say "I think you guys are embarrassing / hilarious / stupid / childish / casual / no-lifers" and then wonder why people think you're toxic?
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  4. #6494
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    just remember that the main way to strike is to not play healer in the first place. If they're qued into a dungeon with randoms, they're not striking.
    Good thing I never said I was doing it then, huh? I've switched back to primarily tanking, sure, but if a friend needs a healer a friend needs a healer and you can piss off if you've got a problem with it.
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  5. #6495
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    Good thing I never said I was doing it then, huh? I've switched back to primarily tanking, sure, but if a friend needs a healer a friend needs a healer and you can piss off if you've got a problem with it.
    Good for you? No one said you were obligated to strike if you don't mind playing the healers, so the "piss off if you've got a problem with it" is incredibly unwarranted, especially since Olivia was talking about people griefing in content.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  6. #6496
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    especially since Olivia was talking about people griefing in content.
    I see nothing linking her statement to that. It did, however, immediately follow up on me mentioning healing despite the fact that I have generally been pretty supportive of this whole thing.
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  7. #6497
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    I see nothing linking her statement to that. It did, however, immediately follow up on me mentioning healing despite the fact that I have generally been pretty supportive of this whole thing.
    These quotes;

    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    apparently there are healer queueing as healer but then dont heal the tank (yeah, some random tanks, they dont care if its a sprout). and then when the tank dies they write something about healer strike.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    thats just greifing and they should and deserve to be reported.
    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    just remember that the main way to strike is to not play healer in the first place. If they're qued into a dungeon with randoms, they're not striking.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  8. #6498
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    These quotes;
    Quotes that were not quoted by said person. Yes, of course, I'm just supposed to assume they're all related.
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  9. #6499
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    Considering they were only just said a page ago and were more or less in relation to "people are griefing with the strike", context should be enough. What made you think Olivia was referring to you when what Olivia said better fit the context of people griefing in Duty Finder? The end result still involved going up to someone who ultimately didn't do anything to you and telling them to "piss off".
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  10. #6500
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    Considering they were only just said a page ago and were more or less in relation to "people are griefing with the strike", context should be enough. What made you think Olivia was referring to you when what Olivia said better fit the context of people griefing in Duty Finder? The end result still involved going up to someone who ultimately didn't do anything to you and telling them to "piss off".
    Makes no attempt to link themselves to the previous topic. Immediately follows up on two different people talking about having healed with telling people striking means no healing. Gee, I really do wonder which thing that was supposed to obviously be connected to.
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