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  1. #1
    Player
    Flay_wind's Avatar
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The 4th day of the strike is now starting. How is it going so far for those of you that are participating?
    Playing DRK/RPR. Having fun.
    From anecdotal experience, there's quite a lot to heal at the moment, because people are new, so they make a lot of mistakes and take avoidable damage. Being not ilvl capped also helps. But from what i've seen so far, i won't say that actual incoming damage drastically increased.
    (2)
    Sometimes rumors are just... rumors.

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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    Why would anyone give healer a try when it is so braindead that a chimpanzee that is blindfolded could do it.
    It's honestly think a bigger problem with that comes down to Healer's learning curve. Compared to say...Black Mage, which is an easy to learn, hard to master class (reasonably simple rotation in terms of buttons, but execution is a total bitch), Healers often fall under the "hard to learn, easy to master" deal. New players get overwhelmed by not just all the healing options, but also the idea that instead of "passively" regaining health from another player, they're now responsible for all of that, and it can give newbies a bad case of nerves.

    Thing is...once you get over all out, outside of Ultimates and progressive Savage or just doing some really insane pulls in old content, there's not a lot of ways to make use of your knowledge, and that's frustrating.
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Golem
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    It's honestly think a bigger problem with that comes down to Healer's learning curve. Compared to say...Black Mage, which is an easy to learn, hard to master class (reasonably simple rotation in terms of buttons, but execution is a total bitch), Healers often fall under the "hard to learn, easy to master" deal. New players get overwhelmed by not just all the healing options, but also the idea that instead of "passively" regaining health from another player, they're now responsible for all of that, and it can give newbies a bad case of nerves.

    Thing is...once you get over all out, outside of Ultimates and progressive Savage or just doing some really insane pulls in old content, there's not a lot of ways to make use of your knowledge, and that's frustrating.
    FF14 is the first MMORPG that I haven't mained a healer in, I started as a healer and dropped it because there just wasn't any healing to be had. Switched to a Tank main and haven't gone back to healing outside of when my wife wants to go tank.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    FF14 is the first MMORPG that I haven't mained a healer in, I started as a healer and dropped it because there just wasn't any healing to be had. Switched to a Tank main and haven't gone back to healing outside of when my wife wants to go tank.
    Oh I used to be SCH main for a time, and ended up rolling onto Black Mage. In a lot of ways, BLM pushes the fight knowledge and situational awareness in a way that I would have expected healers to be asked to do.

    It's just a shame because healers stop being fun once you "figure them out".
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    Naychan's Avatar
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The 4th day of the strike is now starting. How is it going so far for those of you that are participating?
    Great, getting in alot of destiny 2 and its been fun and challenging. Also thinking about picking up baulders gate 3 while its on sale. Have a good weekend!
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The 4th day of the strike is now starting. How is it going so far for those of you that are participating?
    I’m enjoying XIV the way Yoshi P intended: playing other games instead.

    More specifically I’ve been playing GranBlue Fantasy: Relink and it’s pretty decent. Not my favorite but I’m enjoying it. You have two buttons for your basic combos that differ on each character and 4 cooldowns. I’m playing a healer and can set 1 cool down for my healing while my basic combos and other cooldowns go toward damage, so in 6 actions I have significantly more fun gameplay as a healer than in FFXIV despite having like 5 times as many actions.
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    Last edited by ty_taurus; 07-05-2024 at 08:11 PM.

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    I would like the healer job experience in previous expacs in roulettes to be more engaging first, I have to play through those to get to the DT content, so I don't really care if the DT content is good or not yet.
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

  8. #8
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Golem
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by gllt View Post
    I would like the healer job experience in previous expacs in roulettes to be more engaging first, I have to play through those to get to the DT content, so I don't really care if the DT content is good or not yet.
    They really should fix old content before addressing new content. Old content is why healer mains from other games didn't stay.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Like I want the latest content to be good and I'm really glad to hear that it currently is providing an exciting healing experience for some players!

    But like, old content is a massive part of the core game experience. I have to heal and tank for all the people that want to get through the game to play DT and experience it. Unless they want to use NPCs for duties. But lots of people want to queue into dungeons with other players, for progression, daily rewards, leveling, etc.

    So "the new content is good" is cool but it doesn't really solve my problem at all.

    I became a healer and a tank because even with squadrons, crafting, gathering, etc I couldn't always beat DPS queue boredom. I really wanted to enjoy the game and I love DPS jobs but I can only stand so much. So I took the "try healer queue" advice. It turns out I just like all the roles!

    But I immediately noticed how much easier healing and tanking were in dungeon content once I got over the learning curve. And that was in ShB. That was also when I was getting back into DPS and fell in love with SMN but relegated it to my unsyncing dungeons for loot job.

    Now healing and tanking roulette for people is as boring as waiting in the DPS queue for my DPS jobs that have also become more boring. Man. Lmao.

    BLU and pvp remind me this game can be awesome. I'm glad I love crafting and gathering too. They're not perfect but they can be engaging and/or relaxing. I have stuff I enjoy doing in this game.

    But I really like helping people get through MSQ by doing roulettes and it's just becoming less and less rewarding. Getting tomes and stuff does not make up for the bland gameplay experience.

    It's why I don't like partying with friends necessarily, it can be very fun, but I like to play with strangers! Not insulate myself in premade groups and NPC supported content. That's why even when I do use NPCs I always preferred squadrons because while they can be dumb as rocks even when you know what you're doing, the surrounding systems at least make it an interesting minigame for me. The GC rewards are nice.
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    How are healers busy if as a dps I can duo 50% of a dungeon boss with a DRK? That means the boss only inflicts the equivalent of twice my health bar in damage. A healer would only need to heal me to full once at 50% after which they are not needed anymore. With a warrior tank we could have done it duo from 100% because the party stacks only required two people. So what are people busy healing exactly? Themselves?
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