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  1. #4051
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Oh right. I forgot about SCH. It's been a long time since that happened, hasn't it? Can't remember if it was a kneejerk to people crying about Energy Drain back in Stormblood or something else.
    Expedience, the funny run faster button that's somehow also mit, got nerfed in the first patch to half the duration. I assume that's what they're talking about
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  2. #4052
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    I remember the day Yoshi P said on stream to us healers to just do ultimate, then they fully killed my astro (for me) in EW. I stopped healing a tier later.

    I do not understand how people can say it is acceptable to have your job role be very dull in the majority of content.
    I don't either. Limited % of players even do Savage, even less do Ultimate. If you're a WHM who does those you are still a WHM doing Hunts, exploratory zones, relic quests, job quests, role quests, side quests, msq, deep Dungeons, Fates, etc. That's a looooot of hours to have a boring spam dps combo.

    Sadly, many of the fanbase are brainwashed into believing that it's totally fine because the content is easy anyway. Even if it was all braindead easy, jobs should still be fun to play. Many players and streamers dismissing players who want improved rotations are just jaded I guess because they either don't heal or already did the content and want everyone to feel as bored of the content as they do.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-20-2024 at 09:37 AM.

  3. #4053
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    Hakeem Olajuwan
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    I'm genuinely curious how long this healerstrike is going to last. 2 weeks? A month? Through the first savage tier and into the next ultimate?

    I do not have confidence many healers will straight up stop playing healer entirely. Even if Yoshi comes out with a short PR reaction response, the near future changes are going to be tiny adjustments at most, not enough to appease OP's primary demands.

    Also I noticed the strike starts at July 2nd, not the actual release date which is June 28th. By the time the strike starts, most dedicated players will be through dealing with the inconveniences of MSQ healer queues. You want to send a message, send it right.
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  4. #4054
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    Hellebore_Ghrian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naple View Post
    I'm genuinely curious how long this healerstrike is going to last. 2 weeks? A month? Through the first savage tier and into the next ultimate?

    I do not have confidence many healers will straight up stop playing healer entirely. Even if Yoshi comes out with a short PR reaction response, the near future changes are going to be tiny adjustments at most, not enough to appease OP's primary demands.

    Also I noticed the strike starts at July 2nd, not the actual release date which is June 28th. By the time the strike starts, most dedicated players will be through dealing with the inconveniences of MSQ healer queues. You want to send a message, send it right.
    The official release date is July 2th. June 28th is early access.
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    Healer? What do you even need one for?

  5. #4055
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naple View Post
    I'm genuinely curious how long this healerstrike is going to last. 2 weeks? A month? Through the first savage tier and into the next ultimate?

    I do not have confidence many healers will straight up stop playing healer entirely. Even if Yoshi comes out with a short PR reaction response, the near future changes are going to be tiny adjustments at most, not enough to appease OP's primary demands.

    Also I noticed the strike starts at July 2nd, not the actual release date which is June 28th. By the time the strike starts, most dedicated players will be through dealing with the inconveniences of MSQ healer queues. You want to send a message, send it right.
    The 28th is Early Access.

    July 2nd is the hard release date for Dawntrail.

    The Healer Strike will go as long as it needs to, I imagine - and I don't think people are going to stop complaining about Healers given how long Healers have been ignored. Sure, while players may enjoy Healer for the longest time, when they actually start to 'learn' healer you eventually find out that they only have 1 Button to deal damage with, pressing a 2 every 30s or so. If that doesn't spell boring, I don't know what does.
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  6. #4056
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    The official release date is July 2th. June 28th is early access.
    Even still, I think it's worth updating it to June 28th, it is a good point.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  7. #4057
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    Hakeem Olajuwan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    The official release date is July 2th. June 28th is early access.
    It's not the "official" release date, but who are we kidding ourselves. Early Access IS the actual release date when a significantly large amount of players can play already.
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  8. #4058
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naple View Post
    Then I don't see this strike having much weight at all. If you're really passionate about wanting said healer changes, then something's gotta give. That means you sacrificing your means of playing FF14. Otherwise you'll have to deal with no fundamental changes for a long LONG time. The proposed healer changes in the OP are not only a healer change, but a change to overall battle content and reward structure design as well. It would be an absolutely massive undertaking for SE to properly redesign under the conditions set forth by OP.
    You're the 5th person trying to get healers to unsubscribe. This was all answered before.

    - The intent of the strike, or the people supporting the strike, is not to unsubscribe.
    - Unsubscribing from FF brings into question the feedback itself, it's quite likely devs are less eager to listen to feedback from unsubscribed players.
    - There isn't a way to let the devs know why a specific account unsubscribed, that could be for any number of reasons and will likely get drowned out by the huge changes in subscriber numbers that come with any new expansion.
    - Your attempts at convincing people to unsubscribe are unwanted, and it's frankly non of your business what services other people subscribe to.
    - Continued attempt to convince people to unsubscribe cross the line from unwanted to creepy.
    - It's a disingenuous advice. The unsubscribe argument is a transparent attempt to dismiss the complaints, by claiming they aren't serious since healers are unwilling to unsubscribe. That has never been a valid argument to counter any form of player feedback.
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  9. #4059
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    Karma Astra
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    I think the problem atm is there is an entire region that likes the way the healers play on top of other NA/EU healers that are fine with the changes.
    Sadly to SE. It probably just seems like a loud minority and even if it is enough to get their attention they have to decide who they even want to please. If JP is ok with healers and a good size of NA/EU is ok with healers..it really doesn't seem like SE has to do much of anything sadly...

    The vast majority of people are still going to play healers and still queue for things and still raid on it.
    I also think as much as I would like to see you guys get what you want, there is a brand new EP coming I'm sure a lot of you won't forget this thread/strike but everybody else will for awhile as they're playing dawntrail. I have a feeling this will rise back up once we hit the "lul" patch but I can't help but feel this strike would have been better if you all started it now when nobody is doing anything rather than starting it on the official launch of dawntrail where nobody will care to visit the forums much and be too focused on playing the actual game playing with new stuff...
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  10. #4060
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I don't either. Limited % of players even do Savage, even less do Ultimate. If you're a WHM who does those you are still a WHM doing Hunts, exploratory zones, relic quests, job quests, role quests, side quests, msq, deep Dungeons, Fates, etc. That's a looooot of hours to have a boring spam dps combo.

    Sadly, many of the fanbase are brainwashed into believing that it's totally fine because the content is easy anyway. Even if it was all braindead easy, jobs should still be fun to play. Many players and streamers dismissing players who want improved rotations are just jaded I guess because they either don't heal or already did the content and want everyone to feel as bored of the content as they do.
    I mean, how many streamers that you hear about are healer mains? Zepla is about the only one who has been positive about the strike probably because she regularly plays a healer and doesn't have the default mindset of the only time you can have fun is when you are progging savage or doing ultimate as was seen from her video months ago critical of EWs content. Casual content is boring for everyone because the content is unfortunately meant to be braindead, but at the same time when you take that and add in 2 damage GCD spells, one you only press every 30s, it just makes it insanely worse. Streamers don't play the game as a casual so they have no idea what it means when casual players ask for the game to be somewhat engaging for them.
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