Results 1 to 10 of 11423

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Aelin_Ashryver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Posts
    1,079
    Character
    Aelin Ashriver
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    I remember the day Yoshi P said on stream to us healers to just do ultimate, then they fully killed my astro (for me) in EW. I stopped healing a tier later.

    I do not understand how people can say it is acceptable to have your job role be very dull in the majority of content. I do savage, I do ultimate but when I get busy with work and studies the casual content is where I spend most of my time. I imagine it's much the same for other players. I love healing, when the fight is messy and you can save the run it's amazing. I love helping the team. But it's a complete snoozefest once people know what they are doing, and we see in DT first dungeon even in the case of their first run they were not punished for their mistakes enough to actually die. That's frankly terrible design. Failure should be a possibility when you eat several mechanics.

    The attitude of some people in here just shows they really don't deserve the healers who support them. When so many are expressing in simple terms that the combination of the encounters weak damage output and strong survivability of certain jobs makes healers incredibly unfun to play. Nobody wants to sit spamming a single button 70-80% of the time. Especially when you know that in fact your team would be better off were you a dps, at least you'd clear quicker.

    I love AST and SCH, I look forward to playing with their kits in DT and trying to tackle the new ultimate with them. That doesn't erase the fact that in the majority of content healers are looking to be once again, for the third expansion in a row, unnecessary and boring. That's just unacceptable. I've seen new players who come in, are at first scared to try healer but once they do find that it's actually not scary or hard. And when they later get a decent handle of healing? They get bored. Because it is boring when you know best how to use your tools to the point that all you do afterwards is 12111....

    Lastly, the difficulty curve of the game for dungeons is totally backwards. One of the most memorable dungeon for many is what? Aurum vale. Cause it actually had the capability to cause a wipe and frequently would do so with newer players. Why are the most difficult encounters you will come across in game the early ones? And the later ones a total snooze? Not only are the later dungeons easier due to you generally improving over time but they are far less threatening in themselves overall than old ones were in the past.

    I want stuff to heal, I frankly don't care if I get more dps options on my astro or sch. If they want us to have simple dps buttons to allow us to focus on healing, fine! But actually give me something to heal for heavens sake. I shouldn't be rendered redundant by the healing capability of other non healer jobs. That's stupid.

    People ask for more dps buttons because that's what you spend most of your time doing, healers are just a shit dps at this point for many and it's incredibly unfun. I think they ask for a dps rotation because they feel certain that SE will not give us anything engaging to heal in dungeons etc and so far they have not been proven wrong.

    The role is in dire need of help and has been since SHB dropped. Another 2 + years of this is just unacceptable. I look forward to healing the new ultimate, I hope it's got engaging healing anyway. But my daily roullete etc is never gonna be done on a healer for this expansion if all the dungeons are like the first.
    (24)

  2. #2
    Player
    Hellebore_Ghrian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Posts
    130
    Character
    Hellebore Ghrian
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    I remember the day Yoshi P said on stream to us healers to just do ultimate, then they fully killed my astro (for me) in EW. I stopped healing a tier later.
    It's funny it was the same for me, except I was already doing ultimate at that time. This was a massive joke.

    Like that time he said that healers don't need to dps too.
    (15)
    Last edited by Hellebore_Ghrian; 06-20-2024 at 09:36 AM.
    Healer? What do you even need one for?

  3. #3
    Player
    Aelin_Ashryver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Posts
    1,079
    Character
    Aelin Ashriver
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    It's funny it was the same for me, except I was already doing ultimate at that time. This was a massive joke.

    Like that time he said that healers don't need to dps too.
    It was the most disappointed I have ever been in the game. It was so tone deaf I was actually gobsmacked he dared to say it. Then we later learned they replaced their healer tester for dungeons because he got too good. That was another sad day. They have made healers as easy to play as ever, the role is still niche and they should recognise that it always will be because some players are simply terrified of having any responsibilty. The fear they mess up and get called out for it stops them playing, this is the case in every mmo that healers are in and those other MMO did not turn their healers into a 1 button brainless snoozefest that is replacable by another dps.

    Yoshi P should be more willing to accept that not every player is gonna be willing or able to play a healer.
    (11)

  4. #4
    Player
    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2023
    Posts
    1,267
    Character
    Kinda Hungry
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    I remember the day Yoshi P said on stream to us healers to just do ultimate, then they fully killed my astro (for me) in EW. I stopped healing a tier later.

    I do not understand how people can say it is acceptable to have your job role be very dull in the majority of content.
    I don't either. Limited % of players even do Savage, even less do Ultimate. If you're a WHM who does those you are still a WHM doing Hunts, exploratory zones, relic quests, job quests, role quests, side quests, msq, deep Dungeons, Fates, etc. That's a looooot of hours to have a boring spam dps combo.

    Sadly, many of the fanbase are brainwashed into believing that it's totally fine because the content is easy anyway. Even if it was all braindead easy, jobs should still be fun to play. Many players and streamers dismissing players who want improved rotations are just jaded I guess because they either don't heal or already did the content and want everyone to feel as bored of the content as they do.
    (19)
    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-20-2024 at 09:37 AM.

  5. #5
    Player
    Amenara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Posts
    1,040
    Character
    Rhela Tsurugi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I don't either. Limited % of players even do Savage, even less do Ultimate. If you're a WHM who does those you are still a WHM doing Hunts, exploratory zones, relic quests, job quests, role quests, side quests, msq, deep Dungeons, Fates, etc. That's a looooot of hours to have a boring spam dps combo.

    Sadly, many of the fanbase are brainwashed into believing that it's totally fine because the content is easy anyway. Even if it was all braindead easy, jobs should still be fun to play. Many players and streamers dismissing players who want improved rotations are just jaded I guess because they either don't heal or already did the content and want everyone to feel as bored of the content as they do.
    I mean, how many streamers that you hear about are healer mains? Zepla is about the only one who has been positive about the strike probably because she regularly plays a healer and doesn't have the default mindset of the only time you can have fun is when you are progging savage or doing ultimate as was seen from her video months ago critical of EWs content. Casual content is boring for everyone because the content is unfortunately meant to be braindead, but at the same time when you take that and add in 2 damage GCD spells, one you only press every 30s, it just makes it insanely worse. Streamers don't play the game as a casual so they have no idea what it means when casual players ask for the game to be somewhat engaging for them.
    (11)