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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I really do not understand how adding two or three additional DPS buttons would "destroy" your experience.
    If you read the entirety of my post, split into three, you'd see that I requested the same thing here. Sage feels fulfilling because my ranged AOE DPS makes me feel like I'm contributing more than just heals. No other healer job feels the same to me. If all they do is make them all more like Sage, I'd be happy. If they raise the DPS bar so much that it affects casual healers' performance and enjoyment, I would be unhappy.

    Doesn't the fact that I choose to play Sage over all others say something about me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arwing View Post
    If you read the entirety of my post, split into three, you'd see that I requested the same thing here.
    Yeah you just want to hope for it without action and expect it to come out of the aether. How's that been going for the last 5 years?

    The devs have already proven that they won't listen to healer feedback, much less any job feedback that adds back what has been taken away, without a wave of criticism behind it.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-18-2024 at 07:40 AM.

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    The strike isn't just about requesting more DPS attacks for healers. It's all the other demands that worry me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arwing View Post
    The strike isn't just about requesting more DPS attacks for healers. It's all the other demands that worry me.
    I don't mean to damper the manifesto, but it's not going to have an effect on encounter design with respect to incoming damage nor general difficulty in casual content. The best this movement can hope for is healer rotation adjustment and nerfing certain tanks. Neither of those things would be world endingly different for the game in general. If anyone's being overdramatic, it's critics / the actual elitists of the game.
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    I like Warriors as they are. Honestly, the current tank balance feels great to me. I'm not a tank main, but it's amazing to be able to cheese old EX and Savage content as a duo warrior and the Normals of the last expac. Warrior was a superstar in Eureka back in Stormblood for its ability to grind solo. I was always jealous because I hadn't leveled my Warrior high enough to use it, but I got my grind done despite.

    Every job in this game has its own charm and allure. I love playing them all and I love Final Fantasy 14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arwing View Post
    I like Warriors as they are. Honestly, the current tank balance feels great to me. I'm not a tank main, but it's amazing to be able to cheese old EX and Savage content as a duo warrior and the Normals of the last expac. Warrior was a superstar in Eureka back in Stormblood for its ability to grind solo. I was always jealous because I hadn't leveled my Warrior high enough to use it, but I got my grind done despite.

    Every job in this game has its own charm and allure. I love playing them all and I love Final Fantasy 14.
    Certain jobs being invincible even in current content, especially Eureka which was difficult when current, is not charming.

    And no, a tiny % of bad WAR don't justify the imbalance either.

    BLM recently had changes that no one asked for and will lead to other people quitting it. New players will absolutely struggle with it due to missing Umbral Soul until lvl 76. That's just how the game is. The devs wanted to balance the class by eliminating non standard rotations. Not every change is going to be good for every player. You claim to be sympathetic because you help a disabled player and i respect that l, but I think you're being a little self righteous and just want things to stay the same because that's how they've been. Nothing in the game has ever been safe due to that except the main cast.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-18-2024 at 07:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Certain jobs being invincible even in current content, especially Eureka which was difficult when current, is not charming.

    And no, a tiny % of bad WAR don't justify the imbalance either.
    I think that was the point, though. They wanted there to be a job or two that stood a head above the others. Sure, it annoyed me when one Warrior smirked at me at the start of a dungeon, saying, "I don't need you." Despite having faced that kind of smugness and been pissed off by it, I still would defend keeping Warriors as they are. Speaking of which, Dark Knights need a bit more love. They're too squishy. Square needs to put them nearly on par with Warriors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Certain jobs being invincible even in current content, especially Eureka which was difficult when current, is not charming.

    And no, a tiny % of bad WAR don't justify the imbalance either.
    Sure it is, you just don't like it. You're in the minority there. You can moan and complain all you want, it's not gonna change the fact that it's really just you and like 6 other people here who have a problem with warrior.

    And I'd argue if we're talking about a "tiny % of bad WARs" then we also need to talk about the "tiny % of bad healers" that aren't actually just a tiny %. I see so many healers just not using their buttons at all. In the event that I do queue for roulettes as a dps, I watch the tank single pull and the healer spam cure/physick/benefic (but not diagnosis because most sages I see are actually decent). So then I'm sitting there as a dps thinking "man, this could've gone so much faster if I just played a tank."

    So once again (not speaking directly to you, just in general), instead of going after tank sustain because it's this big bad bogeyman, instead of going after dps sustain like it's the bane of a healer's existence, how about we go after the actual battle system first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arwing View Post
    I like Warriors as they are. Honestly, the current tank balance feels great to me. I'm not a tank main, but it's amazing to be able to cheese old EX and Savage content as a duo warrior and the Normals of the last expac. Warrior was a superstar in Eureka back in Stormblood for its ability to grind solo. I was always jealous because I hadn't leveled my Warrior high enough to use it, but I got my grind done despite.

    Every job in this game has its own charm and allure. I love playing them all and I love Final Fantasy 14.
    ''I love Warrior invalidating an entire role in a trinity based game. I love how overpowered it is, how it makes me complete content individually which was never intended, and most importantly, how it makes my gameplay feel smooth and without conflict, because I no longer need a healer, but that's fine, because I don't play healers anyway'

    fixed it for you x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaytex View Post
    ''I love Warrior invalidating an entire role in a trinity based game. I love how overpowered it is, how it makes me complete content individually which was never intended, and most importantly, how it makes my gameplay feel smooth and without conflict, because I no longer need a healer, but that's fine, because I don't play healers anyway'

    fixed it for you x
    I mean, I like Warrior as my preferred tank since I mostly like Healing and dislike tanking. I get to keep healing while also being able to ignore every mechanic and stack up 15 stacks before it matters. But not good design lol.
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