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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Overall I like Xeno because he isn't afraid to criticize the game and he cares more about the game instead of fearing the Wrath of Yoshi P not giving him a Media Tour invite.

    Most other Content Creators like MrHappy will not openly criticize or show any negativity towards FFXIV in any way.
    I don't think he should be afraid of Yoshi-P's reaction. Yoshi-P was pretty chill with Zepla's criticism of Endwalker, even thanking her and saying they were working on improvements. It's crazy how many people were toxic towards her just for criticizing the game. Sometimes, the toxic positivity in this community is just too much.
    And we see the same thing here, where constructive critisim gets dismissed as "dumb" without giving it a chance of thought by Mr Happy for example.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    I don't think he should be afraid of Yoshi-P's reaction. Yoshi-P was pretty chill with Zepla's criticism of Endwalker, even thanking her and saying they were working on improvements. It's crazy how many people were toxic towards her just for criticizing the game. Sometimes, the toxic positivity in this community is just too much.
    And we see the same thing here, where constructive critisim gets dismissed as "dumb" without giving it a chance of thought by Mr Happy for example.
    Oh for sure. Lots of people tie their identity to the game and criticizing the game is like a personal attack on them. So many feel you can't say anything bad ever and critical thinking not allowed. Yeah screw that.

    Criticism on stuff like "Job Balance" is well warranted as the game gets easier and easier instead of being told to "Consume Product".
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Big angry bald man: I understand why people are upset.

    Friendly happy guy: That’s the dumbest f-being thing.


    This is why Xeno has 1000 times more respect from me than Happy does. And not because of this either. It’s just funny how you can see the type of people creators are through their personas.
    I dont like Xeno but I will give it to him that nowadays he seems far more passionate then the game then Mr Happy is, I get retired vibes from him now. I do like that Baldy will talk smack about the game unlike the majority of the content creators and thats probably the main good thing I think about him.
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    Phelsarn Lumerais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I dont like Xeno but I will give it to him that nowadays he seems far more passionate then the game then Mr Happy is, I get retired vibes from him now. I do like that Baldy will talk smack about the game unlike the majority of the content creators and thats probably the main good thing I think about him.
    Xeno decided to call Covid an "excuse" for why there was only one Ultimate during Shadowbringers so as far as I'm concerned he's worse. I've seen his general content and he's just obnoxious overblown airbag of a person.
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    Vylesha Eumoilhar
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    Healing was unironically better in 1.0.
    So I am all for this strike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    The thing is 1.0 where it ended was headed in a great direction imo....

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    Raevus Astra
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    I don't think SE should take player demands at face value. There shouldn't be a single reason on earth that people want one playerbase to suffer so the others can thrive. That's how we got here in the first place. Yes, casual content is so easy nowadays that you don't need healing, but this has been true throughout most of the game like Xeno said.

    Healers are feeling this way because they feel like they're not necessary in these settings of content. Instead of deleting defensive abilities, why not make healing more interesting on an encounter to encounter basis? Make it so Esuna has a purpose in current content. Utilize debuffs like Zombie so healers have to pay attention when to control their heals. Attach color coded cleansing effects to healing options, have bosses grant more debuffs, and make esuna the catch-all damage negative cleansing ability with cast time.

    If they go this route, they don't have to change how easy the current content is, they don't have to mess with solo duty balance, and they can slowly retroactively update dungeons if they want without hurting any other role.
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    X'lyhhia Wiloh
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaevusAstra View Post
    I don't think SE should take player demands at face value. There shouldn't be a single reason on earth that people want one playerbase to suffer so the others can thrive. That's how we got here in the first place. Yes, casual content is so easy nowadays that you don't need healing, but this has been true throughout most of the game like Xeno said.

    Healers are feeling this way because they feel like they're not necessary in these settings of content. Instead of deleting defensive abilities, why not make healing more interesting on an encounter to encounter basis? Make it so Esuna has a purpose in current content. Utilize debuffs like Zombie so healers have to pay attention when to control their heals. Attach color coded cleansing effects to healing options, have bosses grant more debuffs, and make esuna the catch-all damage negative cleansing ability with cast time.

    If they go this route, they don't have to change how easy the current content is, they don't have to mess with solo duty balance, and they can slowly retroactively update dungeons if they want without hurting any other role.
    This is getting to the heart of it. Healers can sleep through most of hte game's group content and the group will still be fine/finish the content. We're not needed to heal/shield/or cleanse, and our rotation outside of OCCASIONALLY casting a heal sucks. We want content to actually give our role something to fucking do the way it does for tanks/dps.
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade878 View Post
    This is getting to the heart of it. Healers can sleep through most of hte game's group content and the group will still be fine/finish the content. We're not needed to heal/shield/or cleanse, and our rotation outside of OCCASIONALLY casting a heal sucks. We want content to actually give our role something to fucking do the way it does for tanks/dps.
    not only that, but stop giving healer abilities to non healers. like sorry, why does monk need a aoe regen... exactly? SE is going out of its way at this point to make the healer jobs actually useless.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaevusAstra View Post
    There shouldn't be a single reason on earth that people want one playerbase to suffer so the others can thrive. That's how we got here in the first place.
    If you think a few nerfs to tanks, for a function that isn't core to role, means they will suffer. Just imagine how much healers have been suffering for years by having the core of their role eroded more and more.

    And a PLD didn't have any ogcd/inherent selfheals before EW. And did PLD players it really "suffer" at ARR, HW, SB and ShB? Do DRK player really suffer because they can't easily soloheal through all of the biggest pulls in dungeons? Did the lack of any ogcd team heals make tanks suffer before EW?

    Quote Originally Posted by RaevusAstra View Post
    Yes, casual content is so easy nowadays that you don't need healing, but this has been true throughout most of the game like Xeno said.
    The performance of some tanks self and team heals were greatly increased in EW. And I've mained healer for most of the game. The role has never been so obviously unneeded as now in easier content. Tanks keep getting more ogcd selfheals faster then healers. And before EW tanks didn't have strong ogcd team heals at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaevusAstra View Post
    Healers are feeling this way because they feel like they're not necessary in these settings of content. Instead of deleting defensive abilities, why not make healing more interesting on an encounter to encounter basis? Make it so Esuna has a purpose in current content. Utilize debuffs like Zombie so healers have to pay attention when to control their heals. Attach color coded cleansing effects to healing options, have bosses grant more debuffs, and make esuna the catch-all damage negative cleansing ability with cast time.

    If they go this route, they don't have to change how easy the current content is, they don't have to mess with solo duty balance, and they can slowly retroactively update dungeons if they want without hurting any other role.
    Cleansing is an additional mechanic that has was removed from the healer role. It should be restored, but that itself wont fix the extreme dilution of the core mechanic of the healer role.
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    Last edited by aiqa; 06-19-2024 at 04:41 AM.

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    So let me get this straight. You don't raid in savage and ultimates, where kits are actually designed to do what they do, so it doesn't matter for that population.

    Then you're going on strike for normal que, which... doesn't matter to 99 percent of the playerbase?

    Also the reason why they made it easier (as pointed out by everybody) is because people complained, whined and cried non stop the healer was too hard. You guys did this to yourself.

    Just going to join in to say that this is really hilarious.
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