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    ImTired's Avatar
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    Novel Dream
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    Mateus
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    Fisher Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    Have you even read to a significant part of this thread. All your objections have been adressed multiple times. The complaints about diluting healer roles have been about mostly WAR, and slightly less about PLD. You should read the posts in the context of the rest of the thread. Don't assume people complaining about tank self sustain mean specifically DRK, they are probably just to lazy to say "mostly WAR, and PLD close behind, and sometimes even GNB, but DRK is probably fine" every time.

    And about your complaints that all your points are ignored. You only have a few posts in total, there couldn't have been more than 3 that were ignored in the previous 250 pages. That can happen if people think there is something more interesting to discuss.
    Actually, I have read a lot of the posts in this thread and people HAVE been lumping all the tanks again numerous times. I would have to go back 100+ pages, but people have done it several times in this thread. So don't assume I haven't been keeping up. I've been noting the arguments on both sides and taking into consideration what has been going on, but this thread has become so hostile for people that actually came in to try and keep a neutral stance, while pointing out the holes on both sides of the fence, and it just spirals into a mess.

    Perhaps if people remained constructive, instead of feeling the need to be snarky, sarcastic, rude and downright insulting other cultures things would be far more constructive.
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    Good Person
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    Exodus
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTired View Post
    Actually, I have read a lot of the posts in this thread and people HAVE been lumping all the tanks again numerous times. I would have to go back 100+ pages, but people have done it several times in this thread. So don't assume I haven't been keeping up. I've been noting the arguments on both sides and taking into consideration what has been going on, but this thread has become so hostile for people that actually came in to try and keep a neutral stance, while pointing out the holes on both sides of the fence, and it just spirals into a mess.

    Perhaps if people remained constructive, instead of feeling the need to be snarky, sarcastic, rude and downright insulting other cultures things would be far more constructive.
    To be fair, it's a non-moderated , and relatively unorganized"strike". You're going to have unsavory individuals both for and against the agenda who may have varying takes or biases unrelated to the main post who may also make one opinion seem worse , better, toxic or misinformed.
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    Yarukiba's Avatar
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    Keo Seventhly
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I started the game as a healer un 2013. I main healer, to this day. And it's boring, no matter the content. Even savages and ultimates are boring once your team is comfortable.
    Healing has been boring since Stormblood to me (WHM main lol), SGE felt nice at the beginning, but three hours later, the fun was gone, because all of my hotbars are exactly the same between all healers.
    During EW savage prog, I was beyond annoyed at all the "fake" peaks of difficulty for healers. Oh you're stepping into the poison? Take a dot that 2HKO anyone, so even the healers can't compensate. Oh you got 7 people alive out of 8 ? Too bad, no amount of shielding can protect you. Tankbusters? Don't worry, we got enough mitigation and self-heal to literally not have a scratch. Everyone died but you did your job? Sorry but you also need the DPS and the tanks to shield and mitigate, because the healers aren't enough.

    It's like, we're too weak, and weirdly too powerful at the same time.

    I remember being very careful during T13 prog back then (or even T7/9!), how timing was really important for heals, because one GCD too much and you could become the target, and one GCD less and the tank could die ─ and let's not forget about stance dancing. That's when I felt like healing was more important ; now it feels like being a cheap DPS with a green icon being present for mechanics only.

    There is something fundamentally wrong with these jobs if people are hoping for noobs dying on repeat during alliance raid so they can have "a little bit" of fun. It's not like I want to take the fun away from those who are satisfied, but I also deserve to have fun with the jobs I (used to) love.
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