#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[LuminaLumi]

Why didn't they remove all of tanks dps kit during Shadowbringers? They only need one single target attack and one aoe attack, their job is only to tank after all. If they complain, just tell them to unsub. That'll show them!

[KageTokage]

RIP Scourge and Fracture.

Some of the earliest victims of the dev's crusade against DoTs.

[currentlemon]

I’ve haven’t posted in several days due to being on vacation. What the heck is going on here?

Anyways, with DT on the way in a few weeks, I hope to see some nerfs to Tank sustain / mitigation, DPS included. This is just me forming my opinion after watching Zepla’s video, but that’s my gut feeling right now.

I don’t want tank sustain removed from the game. I’m fine with it so long as it doesn’t impede the healer role, like WAR’s bloodwhetting. SE can either tone down the healing potencies of those sustain abilities or increase the cooldown so the tanks won’t have access to them so soon after use.

Again, these are just nerfs to the job. Nerfs are not that big of a deal. You can adapt / play around nerfs.

[Calysto]

Just to add to my comment of uselessness do healer LB 1/2 and exclusion of all healer LB from fight design and add a bit of a suggestion :

It could be solved by adding esunas of debuff protection effect : LB1/2/3 cleanse or protect 5/10/15 (removable) debuffs ; then implementing that in some fights.

It's in no way good as it's just "do or die", but it's pretty much what all "fight design requiring LB" are

[GreenLeafy]

300+ pages and there's still the discussion if healing/sustain for something like a WAR is overtuned when this exists :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFcZCEny4x4

A trinity system game has a single tank clear content designed for 8 people in the latest expansion. The balance across the board is out of whack and this speaks for itself. Healers are tip of the iceberg.

[Somnolence]

300+ pages and there's still the discussion if healing/sustain for something like a WAR is overtuned when this exists :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFcZCEny4x4

A trinity system game has a single tank clear content designed for 8 people in the latest expansion. The balance across the board is out of whack and this speaks for itself. Healers are tip of the iceberg.

WAR can solo lower level treasure dungeons as well, since Raw Intuition is enough.

[Bloody_Kenny]

I fully support the cause, but I don't think I ever mentioned how I see the solution to the problem. Nothing new, since many here told those things already, but for the sake of adding feedback. In case developers watching. Just the opinion of a player who raided as a Healer in HW, StB, and EW. I place my points in order on how quickly these things can be done, but I expect all of them to be applied in one way or the other.

1. Bring back DPS buttons. For me, the optimal level of buttons would be HW or about the current Tank level. You optimize healing in high-end content with one goal in mind - to have more time DPSing. This is especially true in week-1 clears, where the difference between a clear or not is Healer damage. So, if my ultimate goal is contributing to the damage, I want it to be interactive and not mind-numbing 2-1-1-1-1 spam.

2. Rework WAR. I don't mind much that other jobs contribute to healing and mitigation, this allows some of them to lean into more supportive roles for the group, and that is okay. But current WAR is the worst offender, the way their healing is overtuned. Previously, being able to solo things as WAR was a level of skill expression, nowadays anyone with at least one working brain cell can do that. "Warrior is great at healing" is an oxymoron in itself. If anything, only PLD's job fantasy supports the "healing tank" design. "Too angry to die" can mean anything, it doesn't have to be "I can heal back to full button ready every 30 seconds". Make increased dmg reduction or healing received relative to current health, defensive stacks per each Fell Cleave used, etc. But current WAR healing has to go.

3. Change the approach to encounter design. This is probably the most unlikely thing to happen and doesn't do much on its own, considering the years of content we had prior. Fights need to be less scripted, and more interesting, we need to move from the raidwide-chariot-dynamo-stack-spread-raidwide-body check formula into something else. Back in HW devs tried to experiment with mechanics, creating new unique fights with interesting gimmicks. Hell, you don't even need to change damage profiles, if you can create fun interactive mechanics, that are engaging for every role to interact. Of course, such a level of change would probably require a completely new team of designers with fresh ideas in mind.

Anyways, this is what I have in mind for the Healer role changes. I won't be playing Healers in DT, will level them up last, using Trusts, Tribe quests, books, PvP, etc. Still hope to hear some feedback from developers regarding healers specifically.

[Summersong]

I'm so confused by people who say "go play something else then". That is exactly what the strike is intending to do. Healers who are striking will be playing other roles. But there is no point in them doing it silently if they wish for the healing role to be improved. It's important to put your voice towards the change that you want to see in a positive, constructive way (which is mostly what these threads are doing). That is literally the entire point of the strike. I'm not sure how that is difficult to understand.

[Evergrey]

I'm so confused by people who say "go play something else then". That is exactly what the strike is intending to do. Healers who are striking will be playing other roles. But there is no point in them doing it silently if they wish for the healing role to be improved. It's important to put your voice towards the change that you want to see in a positive, constructive way (which is mostly what these threads are doing). That is literally the entire point of the strike. I'm not sure how that is difficult to understand.

People say that SE have ignored feedback for years.
But during those years, did they still play a healer regardless?
If so, maybe SE felt that Healers are still in an OK place and said Feedbacks aren't as critical.
However.. What if people left feedback and stopped playing healers at the same time.
Then SE would see that the numbers of active healers are dropping while feedback is pouring in.
Maybe then a Strike wouldn't be needed.
Because as things are right now, take away the word Strike it's just people switching to more fulfilling jobs while listing feedbacks (demands).

[Supersnow845]

People say that SE have ignored feedback for years.
But during those years, did they still play a healer regardless?
If so, maybe SE felt that Healers are still in an OK place and said Feedbacks aren't as critical.
However.. What if people left feedback and stopped playing healers at the same time.
Then SE would see that the numbers of active healers are dropping while feedback is pouring in.
Maybe then a Strike wouldn't be needed.

Because we have (probably foolishly) believed that square would act in good faith when they constantly tell us to go on the forum and ask for feedback and because some of us have experienced the reverse (ie the “why should we care about your feedback if you don’t play healer anymore”)

We’ve been proverbially boxed into a corner here, every decision we make is the “wrong” one