#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[RhaesDaenys]

I honestly don't know what you healers want... do you want every hit to be chipping everyone for 90% of their hp or something so you feel more engaged, or what? Because if that's the case, most of us will just quit because at that point armor and stuff is pointless. I am really unsure how to even 'fix the problem' because all of these arguments really boil down to a simple fact of, "I am burnt out on playing the same role for 5 expansions." Which applies to every job.

[TheDustyOne]

I honestly don't know what you healers want... do you want every hit to be chipping everyone for 90% of their hp or something so you feel more engaged, or what? Because if that's the case, most of us will just quit because at that point armor and stuff is pointless.

Strawman, we just want more than what's currently done.

I am really unsure how to even 'fix the problem' because all of these arguments really boil down to a simple fact of, "I am burnt out on playing the same role for 5 expansions." Which applies to every job.

Odd, I still enjoy RDM after all these years, but I hate what happened to SCH.

[RhaesDaenys]

Strawman, we just want more than what's currently done.



Odd, I still enjoy RDM after all these years, but I hate what happened to SCH.

More what? More that what's done? That could mean literally anything.

Tell us exactly what you want.

[Niroken]

More what? More that what's done? That could mean literally anything.

Tell us exactly what you want.

I mean, you could always read the thread. Starting with the first post.

[RhaesDaenys]

I mean, you could always read the thread. Starting with the first post.

I'm not reading 290+ pages, sorry. I've played all roles since ARR and I've never felt like healing felt lackluster outside of straight up DPS portions, which could use more stuff, but then I see how button bloat becomes a problem then and realize that is the likely reason DPS hasn't been expanded on past what there is.

Just nerf healing across the board by like 35% and now you have to cast more heals. Easy.

[TheDustyOne]

More what? More that what's done? That could mean literally anything.

Tell us exactly what you want.

From the context of your previous post, it should be obvious I mean more damage dealt so we have something more to heal and not be replaceable entirely by Warrior.

The first post here and my signature should be more than enough to know what I want.

[RhaesDaenys]

From the context of your previous post, it should be obvious I mean more damage dealt so we have something more to heal and not be replaceable entirely by Warrior.

The first post here and my signature should be more than enough to know what I want.

I don't know about more damage dealt fixing the 'problem'. I've done enough content in this game to see raidwides and groupwide aoes still do 50-60 to sometimes 70% of health on most DPS jobs. Increasing that to 90% still means you cast one, maybe two OGCD heals and the problem is solved.

Do you want the damage to be more rapid? So that if you miss a single heal everyone dies?

Or do you want to just heal more often, which the fix for that, my friend, would be to nerf ALL HEALING IN THE GAME across the board. Because then you're healing more often, which fixes the problem if you not healing enough.

[OgruMogru]

I honestly don't know what you healers want... do you want every hit to be chipping everyone for 90% of their hp or something so you feel more engaged, or what? Because if that's the case, most of us will just quit because at that point armor and stuff is pointless. I am really unsure how to even 'fix the problem' because all of these arguments really boil down to a simple fact of, "I am burnt out on playing the same role for 5 expansions." Which applies to every job.

To better inform yourself on the myriad reasons, please see the extensive thread linked in the OP documenting the longstanding issues healers have that are affecting players from all skill-levels and interests.

[RhaesDaenys]

To better inform yourself on the myriad reasons, please see the extensive thread linked in the OP documenting the longstanding issues healers have had that are affecting players from all skill-levels and interests.

So you want tanks to be simple damage sponges with no way to survive outside of having a healer around at all times, who will still complain due to still only having a dot and one direct damage spell?

I don't really see a way forward with a design like that, to be honest. Casual content (IE Pretty much everything outside of Savage/Extremes) will likely never be designed where the healer role is much more difficult than it is now.

IMO, the real fix is to nerf outgoing healing across the board, including healers themselves so that they have to cast more healing, more often, instead of one heal and then spam dps. But thats just me.