Page 221 of 978 FirstFirst ... 121 171 211 219 220 221 222 223 231 271 321 721 ... LastLast
Results 2,201 to 2,210 of 11477

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    ty_taurus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    3,647
    Character
    Noah Orih
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    The "more dps buttons" isn't a hardocre raider demand though. It's more of a midcore demand if you will. I've done both, I don't consider myself to be an excellent player. But in high end content the amount of healing downtime makes your filler rotation really prevalent. This fact doesn't really change depending on your skill level.

    Getting one extra button (or a meaningful interaction) to break the nuke spam monotony is the probably the friendliest solution to everybody. It doesn't add more healing stress and you don't really have to do perfect dps as a healer to complete content. (You don't even have to do perfect dps as a dps to complete most content.) It doesn't affect less skilled players but it does give veteran players something interesting to optimize around in all content.
    I wouldn’t even say it’s a hardcore vs midcore solution, just a pragmatic one. Increasing healing requires enough to resolve the problems with healer design without touching DPS would require basically an entire rework of encounter design and healer tools at the same time, and would also not address any existing content, leaving a schism where damage goes from being almost nonexistent to suddenly extremely heavy. Even disregarding the casual experience, it would take a massive amount of work that isn’t realistic. Increasing healing needed a little more over time is one thing, but that won’t be enough to offset Glare spam.

    It’s just not a realistic expectation, thus improving healer DPS tools makes far more sense, especially in the short term. Something they can do for Dawntrail is simply make the attacks we already have available more often, or restore/rework older attacks to fit into the new kits. This is an easy, fast solution that allows healing to be less monotonous right now.
    (16)

  2. #2
    Player
    Shhikasan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    126
    Character
    Shika Naito
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    for main healers you did ask for this, you whined scholar and white mage to be less buttons he gave you less buttons. its also why my scholar sits forever lvl 61 cause i step back into it and was like nope even sage is just as boring most of its "attacks" are shit but because i like shield healing I'd rather play sage over scholar
    (0)

  3. #3
    Player
    GrimGale's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    1,113
    Character
    Grim Gaelasch
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shhikasan View Post
    for main healers you did ask for this, you whined scholar and white mage to be less buttons he gave you less buttons. its also why my scholar sits forever lvl 61 cause i step back into it and was like nope even sage is just as boring most of its "attacks" are shit but because i like shield healing I'd rather play sage over scholar
    Considering the backlash in the forums around the removal of healer actions in ShB, I doubt healers asked for anything. Same as Kaiten. Did SAM mains want Kaiten removed? Did SCH ask for Energy Drain getting removed? Maybe reworked, maybe numbers tweaked or giving dps tools better usability. But I sincerely doubt anybody wanted their kits pruned like they were in ShB
    (12)

  4. #4
    Player
    Shhikasan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    126
    Character
    Shika Naito
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Considering the backlash in the forums around the removal of healer actions in ShB, I doubt healers asked for anything. Same as Kaiten. Did SAM mains want Kaiten removed? Did SCH ask for Energy Drain getting removed? Maybe reworked, maybe numbers tweaked or giving dps tools better usability. But I sincerely doubt anybody wanted their kits pruned like they were in ShB
    idk what your talking about Kaiten is still there on my hotbar 2024
    (7)

  5. #5
    Player
    Asari5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2020
    Posts
    1,452
    Character
    Na'mira Yarhu
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    wont they be like: 'oh all the healers suddenly want to play other jobs.... that means we did an amazing job with tanks and dps'
    (1)

  6. #6
    Player
    mellii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Posts
    25
    Character
    Holuikhan Horo
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    wont they be like: 'oh all the healers suddenly want to play other jobs.... that means we did an amazing job with tanks and dps'
    Possible, but a possible action from that result would still be "lets make sure we do an amazing job like that with healers as well next time"
    (2)

  7. #7
    Player
    WaxSw's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    660
    Character
    Waxillium Larede
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    wont they be like: 'oh all the healers suddenly want to play other jobs.... that means we did an amazing job with tanks and dps'
    Considering they have already beg on stream for players to try healers and the overall negativity surrounding DT changes for all jobs, if the healer population becomes even lower they would have to do olympic-grade mental gymnastics to think they've done a good job
    (17)
    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

  8. 06-15-2024 11:12 PM

  9. #9
    Player
    TBerry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Posts
    571
    Character
    Sakura Ichijo
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss.
    Throwing these terms around like that is a red flag, imo.
    There is no reason to abuse or manipulate someone over healing. No any gain.
    (1)

  10. #10
    Player
    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2024
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    288
    Character
    Scrappy Moonlord
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    wont they be like: 'oh all the healers suddenly want to play other jobs.... that means we did an amazing job with tanks and dps'
    Is that supposed to be bad?

    If they've done an amazing job already then focusing dev time on healers is the obvious follow-up, though whether they actually make good on that dev time is on them.
    (1)

Page 221 of 978 FirstFirst ... 121 171 211 219 220 221 222 223 231 271 321 721 ... LastLast