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    Quote Originally Posted by CaeliaCat View Post
    My concern as you put it, is some semblance of balance for all healers in ALL content. YOUR concern appears to be trolling the forums and only caring about expert roulette dungeons, if you actually care about anything at all.

    bruh... you already lost when you attempted to marginalize my posts to "expert roulette and dungeons" .... GG. And you've yet to refute any points. you were WRONG about the 10X better.... You were WRONG about 1min of mage ballad during a dire situation NOT being extremely common and practical over that of that 30 sec. And Notice you're attempt to shift from the losing argument of current mage's ballad mp advantages compared to new brd/mch MP regens utilities into a point that " 6 jobs offer mp"--b/c somewhere in one of my posts I said something to oppose that 6 jobs have mp regen options??

    Also it appears you're unable to understand my analogy??? When did I say "if a healer wants to go win on the 'race track', they need to select the 'better car.' " ????

    You mean after I belabored the point b4 the analogy and belabored the point after the analogy somehow... you manage to still miss it???

    How you equated "race track" with raiding is part of some other analogy you're pulling from somewhere else but not my posts.

    My analogy was simple:

    Whm= 170 max MPH
    AST= 240 max MPH
    race track= unlocking your max MPH (DPS)
    city limit= the nominal healer dps in dungeon
    highway limit= the nominal healer dps in ex/raid

    Clearing raid has no bearing on healer dps, how and why you made such a comparison beats me.... BC SE has clearly stated they have designed ALL content to be cleared if BOTH healers should choose to contributed 0 personal dps.... And the majority of healers CHOOOSE to do ZERO DPS...

    Remind me what are the points you have refuted again??

    Quote Originally Posted by CaeliaCat View Post
    There is no city limit or highway limit. You CAN run as fast as your car lets you, and the WHM car goes slower. I award you no points, and everyone is now dumber for reading your post.

    6 other jobs can give MP to party members. True or false? I don't care if you, as a RDM, would RATHER not. They can, and if they decide not give up 20 percent of their MP in your hypothetical situation of an immanent wipe, they are bad players. And by the time that immanent wipe comes for most parties, it's late in the fight, where the healers have would have ALREADY listened to a minute or a minute and a half of refresh, which more that most healers ever hear now, even during progression.

    Again, I care about balanced healers in all content. You're obviously on the forums arguing trying to make yourself feel better.

    More evidence of a failed argument.... but I guess that's the best you can do....

    Oh, oh? Now you wanna go into the True or False statements.....

    True or false : New brd/mch MP regen is not 10x better than current in terms of MP regen?
    Ture or false : 1 min of mage ballad is not only common but extremely practical in a dire situation?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...s_across_jobs/
    True or false: a Dire situation isn't defined by a gradual usage of mp throughout a fight but is when a healer or a number of party members die suddenly which would render all previous MP regens obtain before this dire event marginally relevant.
    True or false: the majority of healers DO NOT DPS?
    True or false: you've long lost this discussion and trying to find some pedantic way to remain relevant?
    True or false: you've not yet reminded me what points you've refuted??
    True or false: the only ppl getting dumber are the ppl that had no sense to begin with??
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    Last edited by javid; 06-15-2017 at 02:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
    More trolling.
    There is no city limit or highway limit. You CAN run as fast as your car lets you, and the WHM car goes slower. I award you no points, and everyone is now dumber for reading your post.

    6 other jobs can give MP to party members. True or false? I don't care if you, as a RDM, would RATHER not. They can, and if they decide not give up 20 percent of their MP in your hypothetical situation of an imminent wipe, they are bad players. And by the time that imminent wipe comes for most parties, it's late in the fight, where the healers have would have ALREADY listened to a minute or a minute and a half of refresh, which is much more than most healers ever hear now, even during progression.

    Again, I care about balanced healers in all content. You're obviously on the forums arguing trying to make yourself feel better.
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    Last edited by CaeliaCat; 06-15-2017 at 02:12 PM.