I think WHM could use a little more nerfing in the AoE department personally. ( ^ω^)
And SCH.
And Ast.



I think WHM could use a little more nerfing in the AoE department personally. ( ^ω^)
And SCH.
And Ast.



The cross-role stuff and its lack of replacements continues to grate. Healer abilities are hard to balance because a lot of them are 'selfless'; if I don't take the optimal cross-role abilities on BLM my DPS will be slightly lower depending on what others do, or maybe things will be harder on the healers. Big deal. I guarantee that nobody will care. If I don't take the optimal cross-role abilities on WHM I will feel crippled and unable to do my job in content which actually requires me to be a healer (as opposed to when I'm a bonus simplified DPS who occasionally uses Regen).
Esuna doesn't generally help me feel stronger, it helps other people do their job. Protect isn't an option, it's a boring baseline stat boost everyone is always presumed to have that has no deeper gameplay impact. If two healers take it in one party, it's inefficient. Even having it on your bar after the initial cast is inefficient. Swiftcast is critical without any other way to speed up important spells like Raise (of course, other jobs are less pressured here - one less thing for the WHM to be in charge of I guess).
Rescue, 'Divine Seal', the new Cleric Stance, Surecast (lol); those are optional things that people can take according to their playstyle, though I'm sure most of us will feel obliged to take the most important ones we used to have to claw back some semblance of our current functionality. Overall, the 'new' abilities represent an inappropriate, lazy use of the cross-role system that make us feel incomplete when it comes to our core roles. I don't like how it feels; it's not satisfying. Psychologically speaking, a healer without Swiftcast is a risk-taker who can still perform so long as nothing goes wrong, especially now Stoneskin II's removal negates one of my preferred reasons to use it. However, a healer without some kind of native Esuna isn't even a proper healer. It's probably 'balanced' for when we get Esunaga in 6.0 (SCH already has their version, after all, and even BRD has a native Esuna of sorts), but I won't be going back to WHM after such a long drought.
Last edited by Serilda; 06-14-2017 at 07:28 PM.


You are saying that a videogame developer should write a will.... mostly rooted in information from a build from April... in regards to a videogame that hasn't been released.For those saying calm down; the Whm community has a barrel of apples and bed of hot coals ready to roast Yoshi P and you along with him should Whm prove not to be any good at 70. So pack your bags and write your last will and testment cause if Whm is not better at 70, whm players are going to roast you over those hot coals.
p.s Remember Bards going from 2.0 to 3.0 when saying Calm down...
Regardless of what WHM ends up being, you need to calm down. It's not that deep.
My post was expression of how people feel please calm down don't take it seriously. I personally don't care about the changes but others do and feel Yohsi has screwed up again. Can't blame them for not wanting to wait until 70 after looking at the past.
Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

i main WHM but might go to RDM or sam if these changes are this bad on the 16th i wont wine about it or freak out about it just 1 less healer on my server
Get out of here with your logic. loli main WHM but might go to RDM or sam if these changes are this bad on the 16th i wont wine about it or freak out about it just 1 less healer on my server
But for real, I'll probably just play something else for awhile, Samurai and Paladin both look awesome for Stormblood. Now I'll get to be the one standing in aoe and yelling "heal me :V"


This, sooo much. WHM is indeed viable. But it's the worse healer you can pick by far.
It's such a copout phrase that forces people to shut up about it, but doesn't solve any of the issues at all.
And I hate it that SE of all people are the main ones saying this crap.
Not just that he said it, the way he said it. It wasn't a "Hey, relax, we looked at the feedback, we made some adjustments, you'll be fine." It was a "Meh. We know what we're doing. Deal." =/This, sooo much. WHM is indeed viable. But it's the worse healer you can pick by far.
It's such a copout phrase that forces people to shut up about it, but doesn't solve any of the issues at all.
And I hate it that SE of all people are the main ones saying this crap.

Just like 2.0 Warrior or 3.0 AST. Gotta keep complaining til it's fixed, 6 months later.

I'm going to enjoy blasting through 60-70 as WHM. I'll likely try to get into Omega as early as possible while people are less picky, and try to unlock as much of it as possible before the inevitable sideline, after which I'll use the exp bonus to level a raid useful class. God I hate saying that.
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