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  1. #1
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    Spiritech's Avatar
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    Lucidian Spiritwalker
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    Summoner Lv 90

    My experiences healing on FFXIV since I started playing: It's not a healer.

    For a game that doesn't allow parcing, the fact that healers are even able to DPS during a fight means there are poor game design options happening. Either make it so that there is only one healer per party who can dps while this is happening, or make healers actually heal. This "healing class" has turned into a joke. We are poorly represented in the community and people don't like to play healers the same way that people don't like to play tanks.
    Making healers more damage oriented isn't going to change the fact that less people are interested in the healing role, instead it will make people who actually enjoy healing like myself dislike it. As healing stands now it is a strong support role in classical terms, able to fully heal but essentially a DPS specifically late game. To be specific, this game has some of the worst healing mechanics of any I have seen and it is peaking right now at the worst it's ever been.
    I know developers are going to try to fix it with the upcoming xpac. Let me tell you. I DON'T WANT A CHANCE TO DPS FROM THE HEALING NECESSITY/INTENSITY! This is how almost every other game heals. The healer role should not be a really bad dps class with indom and excog. It has gone so far into the meta that people are scared that the game may never recover from this poor playstyle, and not only that, people don't know how to even heal... ABOUT 70% OF PLAYERS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO HEAL. Please expect that when the xpac drops if healers are going to be changed how everyone is saying... people are likely going to get yelled at because they don't know how to heal, it started to happen at the beginning of this expansion (SB) (I'm looking at you ms.yuki whm whats her name who has used regen twice in her life, and mr broil2 + indom combo sch pro where parcing DPS matters more than using adlo on a tank buster..? LOL)

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  2. #2
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    People will complain, people will drop it, people will leave it, people will say it's "too hard" just like the at the beginning of this expansion... well yeah... it's hard now because (and please believe me when I say this) I HAVE NEVER HAD TO DO A HEAL CHECK IN THE GAME, IT HAS NEVER BEEN HARD TO HEAL. My only limitation has been my mana. The closest thing to a heal check is when you kill one gender in alpha 4 normal. There is none. Only DPS checks and hard enrage. Again that's ONLY DPS CHECKS AND HARD ENRAGE. 2 expansions later. It's not fun or fair to healer mains anymore.
    The healing class is now a constant war of "I wanna dps more, so don't take my skills away I will be bored" to this I say... play redmage... unbelievable...
    or "I wanna heal more, but there is nothing to do so I have to DPS or get yelled at" I recommend fixing this route as it makes for a fun, more efficient healing class.

    Developers: you guys need to pick one route, and finish it.
    Please and thank you.

    - With love, Lucidian Spiritwalker a worried Healer main since 2013 in this game and since 2001 in other games. Thats 18 years healing guys and thats my two cents.

    P.S. I love you all!
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    in the words of the late Heath Ledger... "And here... we ... go...." grab your snacks and drinks ladies and gents. This thread is about to get fiesty!
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    Kaiya Nakamura
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    Glad you found a way to make healer work with you. Depending what we're in, I'm the same way. However, I also like the option to Aero the enemy for DOT. I like the ability to Holy a group of NPCs. I also like the ability to Presence of Mind + Cleric Stance and Stone the mobs during those segments of time when healing isn't really a necessity. I love focusing on Healing, and I'm sure most people don't care if that's all I do, but the options that are out there just expand upon the resourcefulness of the White Mage.


    Just my 2c.
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  5. #5
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    Well options are always nice, well they seem to be, but there is always the hand of optimization that will push. In savage fights currently, I am sitting there using regen every 15 seconds, and a medica two maybe once or twice a min... the rest... ALL of it is stone. Where is my option there. If a healer doesn't need to be cure spamming, they aren't doing anything, that means that they should be doing something, that something is helping push DPS before enrage, that means I sit there stone spamming. Am I still healing? one regen and one medica II every few mins to my 30-40 stone IV.
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    literally me during a raid: *throws regen up* ok 6 stone IV *throws another regen up* oooooooohh look at that presence of mind is up I can do 8 stone! *throws another regen up* oh look something is happening let me use medica 2....... welp... that was pretty.... 6 more stone..... repeat.
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    I guess I'm confused then. Are you saying you'd rather the party get beat up more so we can heal more..? I guess I'm misunderstanding the purpose, cause if we lose the ability to "support" our DPS, then it would be more idle time, so I guess I mis-read your initial statement.


    In any case, from what I've seen / heard / read, they are phasing out some of the DPS so the healer focuses more on healing and overall healing support, so maybe that's the ultimate goal you were looking for?
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    Arrhin Terremiaux
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    Granted, kitteh has gotten into the rum a bit, but I do miss the days of old when cleric stance was a thing. You wanna dps? Sure, go for it...but be careful, you don wanna kill yer whole party 'cause yer greedy fer deeps xD
    Seriously though, I do miss the stance dance, I'm fine with dpsing as a healer but there has GOT to be a trade off, otherwise we're just a support class
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    Don't touch me there

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    "savage healing for savage content"
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    But that's the thing Arrhin we are a support class. WHM is a really... REALLY bad redmage with a regen and aoe heal.
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