Fine, Bloodwhetting is too OP

[PyurBlue]

Even if BW is OP, it hasn't changed any of that. If people are backing out of parties because there is a GNB/DRK/PLD instead of a WAR, then there's an issue. Until then, this is just something to complain about with no actual "harm" done.

If someone's experience is negatively impacted, harm has been done in some form. Feedback doesn't need to be limited to only the most severe problems, and classifying a problem doesn't have to be limited to the criteria you've listed. Feelings on BW are also caught up in the wider opinion on the state of healing, which is hard to dismiss as a small nitpick. Many healers feel like the game isn't in a good spot and self sufficient tanks do nothing to alleviate that feeling.

[dspguy]

If someone's experience is negatively impacted, harm has been done in some form. Feedback doesn't need to be limited to only the most severe problems, and classifying a problem doesn't have to be limited to the criteria you've listed. Feelings on BW are also caught up in the wider opinion on the state of healing, which is hard to dismiss as a small nitpick. Many healers feel like the game isn't in a good spot and self sufficient tanks do nothing to alleviate that feeling.

Technically, someone's experience could be negatively impacted if they play a healer and the tank forgets to hit tank stance. Or AFKs.

What a low bar you are suggesting.

I suppose SE should address that? Have tank stance always on. And if a player AFKs, the squadron/trust algorithm takes over and plays the job for them.

And it doesn't change the fact that if it was a problem... there would be much longer queues for tanks and DPS if healers didn't like their job to the point where they play a tank or DPS instead. But they aren't.

On my checklist earlier:
- When people quit parties because the tank is not a WAR
- Healers don't queue
- People can't clear dungeons

Then there is a problem worth doing something about.

[PyurBlue]

Technically, someone's experience could be negatively impacted if they player a healer and the tank forgets to hit tank stance. Or AFKs.

That's right, and if that were to happen they can provide feedback on their negative experience.

What a low bar you are suggesting.

What bar is there to set? I think discussion on something like a game should be open.

I suppose SE should address that - have tank stance always on. And if a player AFKs, the squadron/trust algorithm takes over and plays the job for them.

If it can be addressed then ideally it should be, although the first solution to pop up isn't necessarily the best one. Discussion of some kind should take place to gather more ideas and then refine them.

And it doesn't change the fact that if it was a problem... there would be much longer queues for tanks and DPS if healers didn't like their job to the point where they play a tank or DPS instead. But they aren't.

I'm guessing this is going back to WAR? There is enough of a problem that people are talking about it and proposing solutions. WAR isn't going to make FF14 collapse, but it's making some of the design issues in the game obvious.

On my checklist earlier:
- When people quit parties because the tank is not a WAR
- Healers don't queue
- People can't clear dungeons

Then there is a problem worth doing something about.

Your opinion is valid, but it's not universal.