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    Lorika's Avatar
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Gatekeepers exist in this game too
    I Know but... They are just little kids playing in a sandbox compared to GW2 level XD.
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    I Know but... They are just little kibs playing in a sandbox compared to GW2 level XD.
    ive played gw2 at high level raider as a scrapper healer since heart of thorns came out and old scrapper was a mess but i found it fun as a healer, i ran into elitist who didnt take me during raids because there were better healers, same in wow depending on the patch i couldn't get into random parties for mythic+ but when i made friends who just liked to hang out and knew i enjoyed the class i played they let me play it even if it wasn't meta. Having interesting job design and inbalance leads to a more engaging game but of course meta parse monkeys who will only recruit perfect vetted players but this can be countered easily by making friends and hanging out, no one will take phys range over two casters rn for pure damage but youd take your dancer or machinist friend because you like them. This is a problem you can fix by being social and having fun however a boring job designed game which is far more balanced then most mmos can't be fixed by making friends.
    No matter what you will be a glare mage if you play whm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    ive played gw2 at high level raider as a scrapper healer since heart of thorns came out and old scrapper was a mess but i found it fun as a healer, i ran into elitist who didnt take me during raids because there were better healers, same in wow depending on the patch i couldn't get into random parties for mythic+ but when i made friends who just liked to hang out and knew i enjoyed the class i played they let me play it even if it wasn't meta. Having interesting job design and inbalance leads to a more engaging game but of course meta parse monkeys who will only recruit perfect vetted players but this can be countered easily by making friends and hanging out, no one will take phys range over two casters rn for pure damage but youd take your dancer or machinist friend because you like them. This is a problem you can fix by being social and having fun however a boring job designed game which is far more balanced then most mmos can't be fixed by making friends.
    No matter what you will be a glare mage if you play whm.
    FFXIV need to evolve, there is not other choice but.... There is 2 mains problems.
    1) A loud part of the community that always scream "don't touch this, don't touch that, don't remove this, don't remove that, don't modify this, don't modify that"... Even when it's about archaic gameplay mechanics that holding back the game and use threat against SE to keep it their way.
    2) SE don't have the courage to say "Shut up we will still do it" at this loud minority.

    Until one of thoses problems is fixed, FFXIV will stagnate
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    FFXIV need to evolve, there is not other choice but.... There is 2 mains problems.
    1) A loud part of the community that always scream "don't touch this, don't touch that, don't remove this, don't remove that, don't modify this, don't modify that"... Even when it's about archaic gameplay mechanics that holding back the game and use threat against SE to keep it their way.
    2) SE don't have the courage to say "Shut up we will still do it" at this loud minority.

    Until one of thoses problems is fixed, FFXIV will stagnate
    ??? A lot of feedback can be found here exactly because SE took things away without any feedback asking for such changes.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 08-02-2024 at 10:13 AM.

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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    FFXIV need to evolve, there is not other choice but.... There is 2 mains problems.
    1) A loud part of the community that always scream "don't touch this, don't touch that, don't remove this, don't remove that, don't modify this, don't modify that"... Even when it's about archaic gameplay mechanics that holding back the game and use threat against SE to keep it their way.
    2) SE don't have the courage to say "Shut up we will still do it" at this loud minority.

    Until one of thoses problems is fixed, FFXIV will stagnate
    People say “don’t remove x” because square has shown over and over that if they remove x they will replace it with nothing and you’ll just have a less engaging rotation to compensate

    It’s even happened this expansion, DRG got a rework that basically removed the eye mechanic off mirage dive and just replaced it with pressing geirskogul, now mirage dive does nothing at all and the rotation has become easier

    MNK got its 2-2-3 rotation removed and basically replaced with “you have 6 buttons press which one lights up” and replaced that lost cadence complexity with nothing

    AST got card complexity removed and traded it with random heal bloat the class doesn’t need
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    MNK got its 2-2-3 rotation removed and basically replaced with “you have 6 buttons press which one lights up” and replaced that lost cadence complexity with nothing
    I still hate that they did this. After losing timer management, the change in gameplay flow at least gave something to pay attention to, but then they changed it back into EW MNK without the timers because some people whined that they had to look at their hotbars.
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