#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[PercibelTheren]

I grabbed a spoon and held my nose to finish getting SGE to 100 by doing an Alliance Raid roulette recently, got Weeping City of Mhach, and was immediately reminded of why I have so much anxiety over this role with the amount of people in my party (myself included) that ended up repeatedly dead. That poor AST with me had to hard carry us all, and I'm pretty sure the 2 SMNs with us did more Raises than I did, lol.

I'm a perfect example of why you should *want* the veterans healers still playing the role by giving them something they'll actually enjoy, instead of expecting/demanding that non-healer/DPS mains should "role flex" and pick up the slack, because we *will* end up a menace in your queues.

No need to be anxious. Everyone has to learn at some point.

Now, I can only speak for myself here, but The Wiping City of Mhach is one of my favourite alliance raids specifically because it can go horribly wrong. It feels good to drag back the team from the brink of disaster by keeping your head cool and running triage. Maybe my brain is just broken from having mained healers in MMOs for years but these situations are what I used to love about the role. They made me feel something other than boredom.

[Tigore]

For Supersnow845 on the first line:

I see. The BLM being made to SMN 2.0 post was sarcasm from you as well? At first, I thought it was a more direct response to Lorika at the time. Hopefully everything will be alright now that everything is cleared out.

Others have reported to me that we had less experienced healers during the beginning of Dawntrail releasing too. I think I already said it before here that I was a bit puzzled hearing from my friends, "Thank God we have an actual healer with us," as I was levelling WHM. One of our DNCs was even saying they had to cover for the lack of heals with Improvisation on one of the levelling dungeons around 95 I believe >.> I will probably just make an exception with friends to queue with like for the map parties (different topic there with low portal rates). So far, I have just been SAM for the Expert roulette. I will try to get the materia from spirit bonds, Expert 4 man chests and hunts for the moment instead of those levelling bribe bags.

I have definitely seen my fair share of bad play on all 3 roles during my time in FF14 and Warcraft. I have had very arrogant players from Warcraft in the past to contend with. Long story short, it has left me with a partial aversion towards solo queuing DF as a tank. The DPS making suicide pulls thinking they don't need anyone, then blaming the tank for their stupidity tended to be the most common reason. Although I have run into other tanks in LFR (easy mode Alliance raid) treating their co-tank like an obstacle or ghost because they wanted to hoard all the aggro / enmity to cash in as the "God of the parse" with the OP Vengeance mech from Mists of Pandaria.

[Tigore]

I mean, once you get a group who knows how to avoid all the mechs and you get used to rotating the oGCDs Haima / Panhaima with Kerachole / Taurochole, you will probably be left with really huge DPS downtime. It doesn't sound bad on paper reading your spellbook, but this usually comes out to be huge Dosis / Dyskrasia spam for your GCDs. The DoTs, Phlegma and Toxicon can only do so much to deviate your damage rotation. If the tank does actually need your Diagnosis shields, some of the Dyskrasia spam can be changed to the shield and Toxicon. During Endwalker's end times, the need to use that shield with Toxicon dropped very sharply to high Dyskrasia spam, since it does more damage than Toxicon for mass AoE.

[RinaB]

Exactly. Most people aren't running with statics who memorized all the mechanics and if that makes me shit then whatever. I hate savage because of snap shot aoes and the toxic discord that goes with it. So because of your boring experience every healer needs to strike? Nah. Go play ninja. Don't see enough of em.

[Aravell]

Letting the people who enjoy healing currently continue to enjoy themselves doesn't necessitate leaving the entire healer role in the current state.

Many times already have we listed out why the current state will not lead to a healthy healer role, but instead of looking into why people are upset, I guess it's far easier to just say "you're whining, go play something else lmao".

How very typical.

[RinaB]

I feel the whining has been ignored by the devs for so long because it's ridiculous. You want to be black mages with your healing kit. You signed up as a healer. Heal. If hour static knows everything and you're bored who's fault is that. Play a dps.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I feel the whining has been ignored by the devs for so long because it's ridiculous. You want to be black mages with your healing kit. You signed up as a healer. Heal. If hour static knows everything and you're bored who's fault is that. Play a dps.

How to tell you don't read without telling you don't read, much less trying to understand (even less being able to mayhaps).

[Gullis]

You signed up as a healer. Heal.

yeah that's the thing, a lot of the time, there is nothing to heal

[Tigore]

I feel the whining has been ignored by the devs for so long because it's ridiculous. You want to be black mages with your healing kit. You signed up as a healer. Heal. If hour static knows everything and you're bored who's fault is that. Play a dps.

Another go for the benefit of the doubt, but yeah. It's a good idea to read the counter points from your opposition before diving into the offensive of a debate.

The healers posting here are more asking for something comparable to a tank rotation. Maybe 2 - 3 extra buttons for it? A few healer spells will need to be consolidated to make room for it. If more healing is needed from unavoidable damage, that could help with seeing GCD healing usage. The expected DPS numbers should remain close to the same to a bit lower under high healing situations. So essentially, it is a request for more variety of animations to see on the class. The Dosis spam will always be there, but it is currently raising to around 80% of GCD usage levels from the graphs shown from Savage runs. Pretty high for just 1 button.

Some of your arguments are not making sense too. You are encouraging us to try the DPS role, then shaming us for not playing the healer. Kind of need to decide which statement is more important to say. In any case, I already said that I am DPSing in Expert roulette as a SAM. I also use Tengetsu and Feint to help reduce damage taken. We keep hearing SAM should use them before they get the Kaiten animation back but it seems rare anyone ever notices when I do it. Similar case for Addle as well.