#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Laerune]

Ok it seems it need a bit more explanation.

I was doing my Leveling roulette and i got Stone Vigil.
The party was : a PLD, a BLM (who was doing it for the first time), me (WHM) and this guy (VPR)
So from the start until the first boss, the tank pulled 'normally' and this guy didn't avoid any of the AOE.... I was often low on MP with Lucid Drean and POM on CD.

The first boss, having only a cleave, wasn't hard but, after we killed it, i asked to VPR : [Name] can you do mechanics and avoid AOE please? It will make the run smoother.
This here i got the : Who care you will heal me.

After this answer, the Tank clearly got cautious and only did a small pull. After all mobs were dispatched, the tank didn't hit run and also pulled the next little group.
At this moment the guy said : "C'mon" and left pulling another pack of mobs and more, since one of the wandering dragon was also here.
After the little ordeal that ensued (the guy still didn't care about AOE and such), the Tank said : Bruh, seriously.
And me i was like "ok this guy don't give a sh*t"

Come the second boss.... And this is here that i let him die because : he didn't avoided a single tornado set!
And then come the aggressive tone, that clearly finished to set me off.
This is when i said that i wasn't a heal bot and that he shouldn't make the healer angry (i concede it was bad wording... i should have put a "a" instead of "the")

Then the guy left.

In the end, the most ironical part is that, the 2 others party member said i was right to have done what i did.... But on this thread i'm a toxic player.

Sorry, but i would do it again to thoses kind of cretin that ruin everyone run. i won't kneel and say "oh all mighty DPS, My Lord, you do as you please"
I'm someone very patient, who like to help others when they don't understand a mechanics,i don't mind losing time for someone that have trouble doing something and die often.
All of this i don't care.... but jerk like this guy, no. I won't let them walk all over me just because i play healer. I'm not here to please them, i'm here to play. If they want a Heal Bot, they just have to use trust.

You did right, dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

I hope you reported this player.

[Assur]

^^ The spiciness of some ARR dungeons is always ... a delight. Stone Vigil in particular. So many shenanigans.

[Tigore]

I believe I just got that dungeon Stone Vigil last night. It seems a few others do not realize that we are only allowed to have GCD heals for that dungeon. The tanks also cannot use any of their 15 - 30s strong defensive cooldowns either. The tank will need a lot more attention as a result with only a shield or Regen present from us.

I mean, a double pull is still possible for me there, but be mindful of the sprouts in those 2 roles. Forcefully pulling for the tank when neither of them are used to their kit is just asking for a wipe. We don't just instantly know what to do under pressure. We will need experience with the toolkit to know.

[Ramiee]

I wonder if theres ever going to be a classic wow thing with XIV.
Like someday a private server for ARR-SB pops up and a bunch of people play it and then that forces CBU3 to realise that there are people that liked the older job design.

[Alice_Rivers]

I do draw a line on that sort of thing. If a dps player is refusing to do even the bare minimum, then I will not go out of my way to heal them; if I place a bubble and they happen to be standing in it, great, if I put out a medica for some reason good for them. If I'm feeling generous I might regen them while I'm moving for a mechanic because slidecasting a damage spell is inconvenient.

But in principle, why should I put in the effort if they refuse to? It is just as much their job to not be stood in AoEs as it is mine to heal them (and not stand in AoEs myself).

[Tigore]

I actually wouldn't blame the decision made for Lorika or Kaeline. Maybe the wording to explain why could be better. It still doesn't change the point that no should be a slave and all the party members work together to clear the run.

I am still tolerant of mistakes being made. If the DPS player is making an effort to try (which is most of the time), they will still get a Regen, Afflatus Solace or Tetragrammaton depending on when the next mech happens and if it's dangerous to them. If they die despite trying, I will still use Raise and Benediction / Tetragrammaton accordingly.

However, Lorika just said the DPS was sitting in the AoEs and expected to be catered to despite their apathy and ignorance. If the DPS player is not making an effort to avoid at all, then the vuln stacks in later dungeons will eventually get high enough to one shot them anyhow. I might still give something like a Regen, Medica 2/3 or Asylum as an efficient way to get them up for the first hits, but yeah. If they are demanding I spend so many GCDs healing them that the other party members are actually at risk of losing my attention, I will have to make the decision to triage and save the other members first. In that example, losing both the tank and BLM is worse than losing the disrespectful VPR. Even in a logical sense instead of feeling, it makes sense to prioritize the others since that option has the highest probability of the run clearing.

[Lorika]

Sorry for the wording, English is not my native language. so i know i'm not fluent enough to write correctly elaborate though.(I often have to use a translator and read dictionnary definition in both language to find the word closest to what i want to write)
It may come out wrongly for a native speaker. Sorry,

[gllt]

Sorry for the wording, English is not my native language. so i know i'm not fluent enough to write correctly elaborate though.(I often have to use a translator and read dictionnary definition in both language to find the word closest to what i want to write)
It may come out wrongly for a native speaker. Sorry,

You did a great job, no worries. I think you were in the right.
The DPS clearly didn't want to cooperate and it's their responsibility to.

[Tigore]

I definitely know the weirdness and pain of using a translator as well. I knew the phone translated a bit off for me since I have a friend who speaks both English and Spanish to ask later on. I imagine the different slang and grammar rules causes some of the intended wording to come off as different.

[Lorika]

I imagine the different slang and grammar rules causes some of the intended wording to come off as different.

Hum don't launch me on that XD
We have so much rules, exceptionand irregularity.... We have a very complicated and complex grammar.... it's sometime very hard to translate into another language
As for slang... Well, i can pretty much write something that is almost impossible to translate in another language, since we love to use common everyday words or expression to transform them into something quite vulgar or into a strange compliment, depending on how the sentence was made.... And we have a lot of imagination i assure you XD