#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Isala]

How do you know that? and your feelings don't count as proof.


Thats called "moving on". Not everyone wants to stay in the past.


You should move on too. I mean, who cares about ShB when we're all in Dawntrail. Well, maybe you're still in ShB.. who knows.


Where? When? How do you know that? And let's not dwell on the past for a change, but talk about the present.

it all sounds so deliberately malicious. if se is the villain, i wonder why you keep playing the villain's game.

How do we know? BECAUSE WE WERE THERE. And why does SHB matter? BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T UPDATED HEALERS SINCE SHB.

Go troll somewhere else.

[SamLeens]

Wow, so pointing out things that historically did happen is malicious now.

Ok, let's cancel history and not learn from the past!

So you can't provide any evidence for your statements and are now switching to the topic of history. That's an evasive maneuver that you can do, but it definitely reduces the credibility of the statements.
As a german, i can confirm that history is important. But it's not about living in the past or comparing every aspect with the past. The past should not be forgotten so that it doesn't repeat itself. Not forgetting and living in it or relating everything to it are two different things.

[Aravell]

So you can't provide any evidence for your statements and are now switching to the topic of history. That's an evasive maneuver that you can do, but it definitely reduces the credibility of the statements.
As a german, i can confirm that history is important. But it's not about living in the past or comparing every aspect with the past. The past should not be forgotten so that it doesn't repeat itself. Not forgetting and living in it or relating everything to it are two different things.

If you wanted evidence, you could very easily read the patch notes.

It's not my obligation to dig through patch notes for hours just to convince someone on the internet.

You want to dismiss me? Go ahead. You're not the one that needs to understand the design issues, SE is.

[Wilford111]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poqu6p7F8S4
EX2 too with a PLD tank and 7 DPS.

Looking forward to seeing everyone who is striking to clear with this comp

[SamLeens]

1) the fact that square buffed MP regen on aetherflow/energy drain and said it was because a lack of MP on SCH, same as giving MP to draw, they specifically said the mana economy of those two was broken and the jobs didn’t function because of it. they also changed old sleeve draw specifically because they said it didn’t work

2) not everyone wants the modern job design either but apparently we don’t get a choice

3) because these problems from ShB still haven’t been fixed

4) DT BLM is an example, the ShB healers are another, 4.2 WAR is another, 5.0 MCH, 7.0 MNK, it actually happens relatively often

Hello Aravell. I didnt know you had more than one account. It's nice that you found more than just "history" to justify your statements.

1) that doesnt confirm that they "never tested any of the changes".
2) "until SGE launched with the exact same obscene amounts of healing for free, then suddenly people are somehow ok with it" that's the point i was trying to make, and that's still called "moving on" or "growing." You change your mind about a lot of things throughout your life. That's normal.
It's weird playing an MMO and knowing it's a long-lasting game that changes things, but then wanting to play old classes instead. It's a contradiction in terms.
3)No, according to your text that was in the past. I don't see that it's a current problem either.
4) This is a list without sources. Its just as valid as the text before.

[Maltothoris]

You want proof how about this then from the statements regarding job adjustments before 7.01 dropped. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...6321a515d36909

While it was our aim to preserve monk’s playstyle from the Patch 6.x series, several changes to their core abilities─stacks of Fury chief among them─have significantly changed how it feels to play the job.
We discovered certain actions had incorrect potencies, as well as an error pertaining to the requirements to apply stacks of Fury. We plan to address these issues in Patch 7.01, which should result in improved effectiveness of area-of-effect attacks. This will also necessitate minor adjustments to the job HUD. My apologies again for monk’s inadequate performance, which presently differs from what we previously announced.

Before learning the action Umbral Soul, black mage has difficulty recovering MP. We plan to address this with adjustments in Patch 7.01, with plans to make further adjustments to action potencies in Patch 7.05.

an issue compounded by the removal of damage from dark knight and gunbreaker movement abilities.

Edit: yes they did fix these in 7.01 but the issue stands that two issues in particular, mnk aoe and black mage new mp regen on level prior 76. This didn't catch their issue.

[Aravell]

Hello Aravell. I didnt know you had more than one account. It's nice that you found more than just "history" to justify your statements.

You just lost all credibility the moment you stooped down to "Everyone who disagrees with me are alts of the same person".

How about you do your own research instead of hounding other people to do it for you, eh? It's not like you'll listen to other people anyway, since everyone who disagrees with you is the same person.

[SamLeens]

How do we know? BECAUSE WE WERE THERE. And why does SHB matter? BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T UPDATED HEALERS SINCE SHB.

Go troll somewhere else.

Well, i was there too, by the way. It's not like it happened 90 years ago and only a few witnesses to the events are still alive.

Isn't it ironic that i show serious interest, ask for facts and then get called a troll?!

This reaction tells me that this is not a serious discussion, but a bubble in which only negative statements can be communicated.

[Aravell]

> "I show serious interest"
> Gets a serious answer by someone.
> "Oh hi, you must be the same person because there's no way 2 people would disagree with me"

What a joke.

[Amenara]

1) that doesnt confirm that they "never tested any of the changes".

On this specifically, I think there is a point to be made about testing in that if SE did test it they really screwed it up with having jobs that were MP negative. Other issues we have seen are with little things like the 7.0 MNK launch having potency issues, DRK and GNB gap closers having no enmity when they removed potency, when SE buffed Glare in EW and made Afflatus Misery a DPS loss. It's just a concerning trend that SE is missing pretty obvious things that you would notice either through reading tooltips or testing it for a little bit.