#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[jdtuggey]

Your anecdotes are meaningless, I could just as easily say “I run dungeons with plenty of people and they all say healers are boring” and it’s literally just as meaningful as your point

They haven’t improved healers in years, I have no idea where your confidence on that front comes from

Okay man, have a nice night and enjoy seething.

[Aravell]

Whether or not it takes a 'Top 2% player' or whatever to do a run without healers is irrelevant to whether or not healers are needed.

We do know for a fact that every piece of content can be solohealed, even the supposedly harder to heal DT content. That means that there exists no content in the game that can fully engage 2 healers at once.

I don't know about anyone else, but if I require my DPS and tanks to enjoy licking all the floor candy for me to be engaged with my job, that is bad job design.

[Isala]

but they also can't flip the game over in a month and a half.

That's literally what they did when SHB dropped. One day, healers were somewhat enjoyable (SB), the very next, they were dog water (SHB).

[Aravell]

That's literally what they did when SHB dropped. One day, healers were somewhat enjoyable (SB), the very next, they were dog water (SHB).

Not to mention that they never tested any of the changes, so SCH and AST launched broken.

SCH got their main resource dump removed and they were just able to throw out obscene amounts of healing with no cost, which a lot of people thought was garbage design back then (until SGE launched with the exact same obscene amounts of healing for free, then suddenly people are somehow ok with it).

And them AST also launched severely underpowered and I believe they were also MP-negative on ShB launch. Not to mention the travesty that was 5.0 launch Sleeve Draw.

They've shown that they're perfectly happy with massively changing jobs with little to no warning, they don't even seem to really care if it launches in a playable state.

[SamLeens]

Not to mention that they never tested any of the changes, so SCH and AST launched broken.

How do you know that? and your feelings don't count as proof.

SCH got their main resource dump removed and they were just able to throw out obscene amounts of healing with no cost, which a lot of people thought was garbage design back then (until SGE launched with the exact same obscene amounts of healing for free, then suddenly people are somehow ok with it).

Thats called "moving on". Not everyone wants to stay in the past.

And them AST also launched severely underpowered and I believe they were also MP-negative on ShB launch. Not to mention the travesty that was 5.0 launch Sleeve Draw.

You should move on too. I mean, who cares about ShB when we're all in Dawntrail. Well, maybe you're still in ShB.. who knows.

They've shown that they're perfectly happy with massively changing jobs with little to no warning, they don't even seem to really care if it launches in a playable state.

Where? When? How do you know that? And let's not dwell on the past for a change, but talk about the present.

it all sounds so deliberately malicious. if se is the villain, i wonder why you keep playing the villain's game.

[Aravell]

it all sounds so deliberately malicious. if se is the villain, i wonder why you keep playing the villain's game.

Wow, so pointing out things that historically did happen is malicious now.

Ok, let's cancel history and not learn from the past!

[Supersnow845]

How do you know that? and your feelings don't count as proof.


Thats called "moving on". Not everyone wants to stay in the past.


You should move on too. I mean, who cares about ShB when we're all in Dawntrail. Well, maybe you're still in ShB.. who knows.


Where? When? How do you know that? And let's not dwell on the past for a change, but talk about the present.

it all sounds so deliberately malicious. if se is the villain, i wonder why you keep playing the villain's game.

1) the fact that square buffed MP regen on aetherflow/energy drain and said it was because a lack of MP on SCH, same as giving MP to draw, they specifically said the mana economy of those two was broken and the jobs didn’t function because of it. they also changed old sleeve draw specifically because they said it didn’t work

2) not everyone wants the modern job design either but apparently we don’t get a choice

3) because these problems from ShB still haven’t been fixed

4) DT BLM is an example, the ShB healers are another, 4.2 WAR is another, 5.0 MCH, 7.0 MNK, it actually happens relatively often

[Aravell]

4) DT BLM is an example, the ShB healers are another, 4.2 WAR is another, 5.0 MCH, 7.0 MNK, it actually happens relatively often

Let's not forget selfish DPS SAM that launched doing less damage than support DPS NIN.

Also the ongoing lie of selfish DPS MCH.

[Isala]

How do you know that? and your feelings don't count as proof.


Thats called "moving on". Not everyone wants to stay in the past.


You should move on too. I mean, who cares about ShB when we're all in Dawntrail. Well, maybe you're still in ShB.. who knows.


Where? When? How do you know that? And let's not dwell on the past for a change, but talk about the present.

it all sounds so deliberately malicious. if se is the villain, i wonder why you keep playing the villain's game.

How do we know? BECAUSE WE WERE THERE. And why does SHB matter? BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T UPDATED HEALERS SINCE SHB.

Go troll somewhere else.

[SamLeens]

Wow, so pointing out things that historically did happen is malicious now.

Ok, let's cancel history and not learn from the past!

So you can't provide any evidence for your statements and are now switching to the topic of history. That's an evasive maneuver that you can do, but it definitely reduces the credibility of the statements.
As a german, i can confirm that history is important. But it's not about living in the past or comparing every aspect with the past. The past should not be forgotten so that it doesn't repeat itself. Not forgetting and living in it or relating everything to it are two different things.