#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[GrimGale]

If you're talking about me, I only heard about this through youtube content a while ago, and I haven't paid attention.
Looked at top threads on the forum and peeked to see what it's really about.
I haven't contributed to this discussion before this, and honestly, I have no stakes in it, even as a main healer. :P
I never set any """goalposts""", I just don't care.

"You come to my home uninvited and tell me how you "don't care"? What a fool you are!"

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

If anything, that clear just shows how stupidly overblown when people says "omg EX1 needs sooo much healing!!!". Where's the need for Lilybell? Divine Caress? Seraphism? Philosophia? Macrocosmos? etc.

[Rolder50]

“I don’t care that good people can do high end content without healers wait till it’s randoms”

Well for 1 random pickup groups of tanks can already clear vali with near no effort and two no matter how good they are nobody clears content with a lack of tanks or savage with a lack of DPS. Do we not see a problem here or are people just wilfully blind at this point

I mean, technically speaking, there are ultimate clears with all tanks. So no healers OR DPS. Example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gi05HqdMSs

[Aravell]

If anything, that clear just shows how stupidly overblown when people says "omg EX1 needs sooo much healing!!!". Where's the need for Lilybell? Divine Caress? Seraphism? Philosophia? Macrocosmos? etc.

I'm still looking for the increased healing requirements in DT that people were going on and on about, no luck in finding it yet.

Maybe I'll find it when savage drops.

[Amenara]

Time for a fresh batch of popcorn. Another no healer clear.
https://x.com/jooooonside/status/1817629545379348577

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poqu6p7F8S4
EX2 too with a PLD tank and 7 DPS.

[Aword3213]

*Shrugs shoulders* Not even worth getting popcorn for. Show me random groups of "nobodies" doing this on the regular and I'll bring the butter.

“Show me proof that randos can do it, but as long as they appear on my screen, they’re not nobodies of random groups.”

[GrimGale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poqu6p7F8S4
EX2 too with a PLD tank and 7 DPS.

And its optimal too. Amazing.

[jdtuggey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poqu6p7F8S4
EX2 too with a PLD tank and 7 DPS.

I feel like that should be celebrated as an achievement ?
Also, these guys are -all- top 1% players.
We're talking like... top 20 players in their classes. :P
Not very representative if you ask me ?
Kinda like saying a game is easy because of a world record speedrun. ;o

"You come to my home uninvited and tell me how you "don't care"? What a fool you are!"

loved this

[Amenara]

I feel like that should be celebrated as an achievement ?

100% agree, they are obviously crazy good players to do it without dying. Just funny how much aoe healing even DPS have now.

[GrimGale]

I feel like that should be celebrated as an achievement ?

The projection of turmoil seems really finnicky, but appart from that, there is nothing particularly complicated about the execution? The fire chains do require quick reflexes to figure out who you're tethered with.

What is interesting is that they don't really use any complex, out of the box strategy beyond coordinating mitigation and their jobs healing buttons. This fight does have very low healing requirements for the most part.

I'm not trying to say that there is no merit to this, and figuring it out definitely has merit. But to just go "oh they are the top 1% players this is otherwise unaproachable" is disingenous in this case. Any coordinated group can pull this off with a bit of practice.