#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Bobby66]

You could easily fit some of Bard's DPS kit to a Healer to give it some actual depth.

What I am saying is they removed that aspect for a reason in the past. Asking for it to be added again means we have to consider was the reason it was removed to begin with no longer a factor for the overall role or community?

Idk, just something we have to think about.

As an example I love old SMN, and would pay any amount of money to get it back but I understand it was removed for a reason and to request it back seems disingenuous without offering a solution that acknowledges why it was changed in the first place. That is what I am trying to say, hope it makes sense.

[IDontPetLalas]

What I am saying is they removed that aspect for a reason in the past. Asking for it to be added again means we have to consider was the reason it was removed to begin with no longer a factor for the overall role or community?

Idk, just something we have to think about.

As an example I love old SMN, and would pay any amount of money to get it back but I understand it was removed for a reason and to request it back seems disingenuous without offering a solution that acknowledges why it was changed in the first place. That is what I am trying to say, hope it makes sense.

I see your point, however there are also examples of skills that were removed with doubtful justification by Square- kaiten, or the baseless "SCHs are healing less than their WHM co-healer" (a fallacy by and large) which lead to multiple skills being removed from SCH. I could go on.

So no, we don't necessarily have to provide a justification or even a solution for what we want. It is is however fair to explain why we like or don't like specific changes.

[Bobby66]

I see your point, however there are also examples of skills that were removed with doubtful justification by Square- kaiten, or the baseless "SCHs are healing less than their WHM co-healer" (a fallacy by and large) which lead to multiple skills being removed from SCH. I could go on.

So no, we don't necessarily have to provide a justification or even a solution for what we want. It is is however fair to explain why we like or don't like specific changes.

Saying we have to was a wrong word choice but I do feel we should fairly show that said tools were removed for a reason, and if we want our fixes to be considered they probably should reflect to some degree.

Yes, they have not told in black and white the why for every change but does not take much to see that their job vision is to stream line. So best chance at a change to be taken to heart is to keep that in mind. Imo.

It's not so much about a role not being for everyone, but them constantly whittling a role down and not replacing it with anything.
While damage for now in DT isn't actually completely negligible, it will have to be seen how much of it remains after people gear up... A lot of attacks from bosses are generally completely avoidable, and extremely punishing if you do get hit. This creates a situation where you only heal when people stand in AoEs, or just have to move straight to raising them.

And what unavoidable damage there is, is often completely manageable with little to no work from a Healer.


And thus, by Square's own design, Healers shouldn't Heal. But they refuse to give Healers anything else.

What I am saying is people do seem to enjoy healers as they are. If the role was void of players changes woule have happened already by nature of needing to fix there being no healers in queue.