#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Striker44]

You know, that had me fuming during the role quest. I couldn't help think "for God's sake , I'm past level 90, I KNOW how to use Esuna, can you please throw something a bit more challenging my way?" It honestly felt condescending.

Disappointingly, you'd be surprised...I was just in The Dead Ends last night where missing a mechanic throws that cleansable debuff on you that kills you if not cleansed in time...let's just say random DPS duo got hit multiple times (sadly, I was one of them), and only once near the end of the fight did the healer use Esuna. There's just so few cases where it's actually necessary to cleanse something that I wouldn't be surprised if a fair portion of your random, typical healers forgot it even exists.

[Kes13a]

looks like Yoshi P and crew need to revisit WoW for some advice....Posted by Kaivax on WoWhead, a WoW community manager and employee

"With the introduction of the Dragonflight talents system and season-over-season changes, tanks in World of Warcraft have become extremely durable relative to non-tank characters. Their active defenses can mitigate high percentages of incoming damage and they have strong self-healing. Today, in the hardest content in the game, many tanks can sustain themselves without much assistance from healers. In some cases, we’ve seen it become optimal to do group content without a healer at all.

World of Warcraft is an MMO, and its multiplayer aspects are a major strength. Group content is extremely rewarding when players performing different roles come together to overcome a challenge. We want to reinforce the importance of the healer role and work towards gameplay where tanks and healers collaborate to reduce the damage the tank is taking and to restore the tank’s lost health."

[Isala]

looks like Yoshi P and crew need to revisit WoW for some advice....Posted by Kaivax on WoWhead, a WoW community manager and employee

"With the introduction of the Dragonflight talents system and season-over-season changes, tanks in World of Warcraft have become extremely durable relative to non-tank characters. Their active defenses can mitigate high percentages of incoming damage and they have strong self-healing. Today, in the hardest content in the game, many tanks can sustain themselves without much assistance from healers. In some cases, we’ve seen it become optimal to do group content without a healer at all.

World of Warcraft is an MMO, and its multiplayer aspects are a major strength. Group content is extremely rewarding when players performing different roles come together to overcome a challenge. We want to reinforce the importance of the healer role and work towards gameplay where tanks and healers collaborate to reduce the damage the tank is taking and to restore the tank’s lost health."

Man, that's kinda sad that WoW is paying more attention to its players than XIV is, considering that game's recent history.

[IDontPetLalas]

Disappointingly, you'd be surprised...I was just in The Dead Ends last night where missing a mechanic throws that cleansable debuff on you that kills you if not cleansed in time...let's just say random DPS duo got hit multiple times (sadly, I was one of them), and only once near the end of the fight did the healer use Esuna. There's just so few cases where it's actually necessary to cleanse something that I wouldn't be surprised if a fair portion of your random, typical healers forgot it even exists.

The point is that it doesn't belong as a major, highlighted "this is peak healer gameplay, look at how you have mastered your job" at level 90+. Nor is that the first time Square has used it as a healer quest, a little innovation is in order. Who knows, maybe even combining skills? Using it while keeping someone healed? Using it while DPSing? Anything?

Not to mention, there are multiple skills that are infrequently used at times by individuals on various jobs.

[Ramiee]

If you suggest a mit plan in anything other then ultimates you will not get far. It’s kinda hilarious how many tools specific jobs have but don’t use. Self responsibility has gone down the drain for quick some time now.

Yeah, remembering my time in ARR-SB for raids is a bit hazy but I do remember DPS actually planning around mitigations, buffs and bursts to balance TP and MP usage. HW I have blanked out a bunch (probably due to trauma) but I specifically remember the DPS discussing TP and a period to align buffs for a burst.
Compared to now where everything is automated to be bursty every 2 minutes it feels alien to discuss anything that isn't boss mechanics.

[Shurrikhan]

looks like Yoshi P and crew need to revisit WoW for some advice....Posted by Kaivax on WoWhead, a WoW community manager and employee

"With the introduction of the Dragonflight talents system and season-over-season changes, tanks in World of Warcraft have become extremely durable relative to non-tank characters. Their active defenses can mitigate high percentages of incoming damage and they have strong self-healing. Today, in the hardest content in the game, many tanks can sustain themselves without much assistance from healers. In some cases, we’ve seen it become optimal to do group content without a healer at all.

World of Warcraft is an MMO, and its multiplayer aspects are a major strength. Group content is extremely rewarding when players performing different roles come together to overcome a challenge. We want to reinforce the importance of the healer role and work towards gameplay where tanks and healers collaborate to reduce the damage the tank is taking and to restore the tank’s lost health."

The sad thing is that even at the height of tank power there, I still have decent engagement as a healer. Yes, there's little to no need to heal the Blood Death Knight, but I still have at least double the damage dealing complexity, more support-oriented agency, and far more to heal among non-tanks.

[Rolder50]

you can blame that on the people who have spread alarmist stories about talking and being put in GM jail or other nonsense. people dont realize that "do your %(*#$ job" isnt 'talking'. I talk all the time never had a problem

As long as you are polite when telling people things it's fine. Just don't come in calling people stupid for not knowing about something or whatever and you are golden.

[Jojoya]

You know, that had me fuming during the role quest. I couldn't help think "for God's sake , I'm past level 90, I KNOW how to use Esuna, can you please throw something a bit more challenging my way?" It honestly felt condescending.

I think it was added to remind players that Esuna exists. Most healers don't use Esuna at all these days short of something like Doom (and sometimes not even then).

[Kes13a]

I think it was added to remind players that Esuna exists. Most healers don't use Esuna at all these days short of something like Doom (and sometimes not even then).

pretty sure I did not need THAT much reminding. it was all I had to use. seems more like devs/writers saying "this is all you're good for"

it would be like only having to use Bloodletter... and only that (or its equivalent) in ranged role quests.

why not have us use 'Repose' then? I dont know of ANY healers that use that one. why not remind us of that gem?

[Shurrikhan]

As long as you are polite when telling people things it's fine. Just don't come in calling people stupid for not knowing about something or whatever and you are golden.

I mean, I've literally gotten a flurry of threats and insults off of...

• "Just a heads-up: you don't actually need to stick to Cure I. The skill given at level 14, Lucid Dreaming (with the icon of the purple figure praying) gives back about 4000 MP and you get back another 4000+ naturally over time, so you can feel free to use Medica II and Cure II as needed. The MP costs aren't an issue until you get low. The Freecure trait is mostly just for if you recently died,"
  
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• "If you don't mind, a Holy at the start of the pull goes a long way towards reducing the healing required. Similarly, you can always cast Regen before the pull. This will reduce the need to use your more complicated abilities."

Yes, those words exactly.

(And yes, in the first case the healer cast only Cure and maybe a couple Regens. In the second, they were mostly idle until spamming Cure 1 and the rare Cure II once my health dropped below half; not a single ability. I was on DRK in Bartam's Mettle. We eventually had to small pull because there just wasn't enough damage or healing to sustain normal ones.)

About three-quarters of the time, unsolicited advice given tactfully has gone over just fine. But there has been that quarter of the time, generally when it's most needed, where it hasn't. As such, it can feel pretty disincentivized to try to help via instruction those who are clearly struggling since they're also the most likely to be hostile in turn. /shrug