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  1. #7161
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    fact. they only have ONE job.. to dps.. two if you bother to include "dont stand in bad stuff" but they often fail at #2
    Don’t tell them that they have also dmg reduction tools. They have a mental breakdown if you do
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  2. #7162
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    LyraShu's Avatar
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    Lyra Shuu
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    Don’t tell them that they have also dmg reduction tools. They have a mental breakdown if you do
    Sir,

    This is blasphemy of the highest order! How dare you suggest DPS to anything other then DPS and stand in puddles!

    (I hope the joke/sarcasm is heard haha)
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  3. #7163
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Playing only DPS in XIV but healer in other MMOs really shows to me that XIV players really aren't mmo players.
    I am so used to DPS in other MMOs helping out through buffs, mitigations and aggro control but in XIV they literally just DPS, Its pretty boring. When im on Monk doing extremes in PF I often ask the healers if they have points they want me to use Mantra at and they're always suprised that I even use Mantra let alone talk to them about it. Also no one talks about who mits first between casters, melees and phys range so they don't overstack each other even in savage. XIV players honestly take the Role names completely at face value, DPS need to DPS, Healers need to Heal and Tanks need to Tank don't do anything else.
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  4. #7164
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    Don’t tell them that they have also dmg reduction tools. They have a mental breakdown if you do
    I noticed that! enjoying playing drg, and its been a while so was reading my tooltips.... I have a whole whack of things that I never see used.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  5. #7165
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LyraShu View Post
    Sir,

    This is blasphemy of the highest order! How dare you suggest DPS to anything other then DPS and stand in puddles!

    (I hope the joke/sarcasm is heard haha)
    Crap I’ve got caught. Quick jumping of the arena edge so my healer can rezz me.
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  6. #7166
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Playing only DPS in XIV but healer in other MMOs really shows to me that XIV players really aren't mmo players.
    I am so used to DPS in other MMOs helping out through buffs, mitigations and aggro control but in XIV they literally just DPS, Its pretty boring. When im on Monk doing extremes in PF I often ask the healers if they have points they want me to use Mantra at and they're always suprised that I even use Mantra let alone talk to them about it. Also no one talks about who mits first between casters, melees and phys range so they don't overstack each other even in savage. XIV players honestly take the Role names completely at face value, DPS need to DPS, Healers need to Heal and Tanks need to Tank don't do anything else.
    you can blame that on the people who have spread alarmist stories about talking and being put in GM jail or other nonsense. people dont realize that "do your %(*#$ job" isnt 'talking'. I talk all the time never had a problem
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  7. #7167
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Playing only DPS in XIV but healer in other MMOs really shows to me that XIV players really aren't mmo players.
    I am so used to DPS in other MMOs helping out through buffs, mitigations and aggro control but in XIV they literally just DPS, Its pretty boring. When im on Monk doing extremes in PF I often ask the healers if they have points they want me to use Mantra at and they're always suprised that I even use Mantra let alone talk to them about it. Also no one talks about who mits first between casters, melees and phys range so they don't overstack each other even in savage. XIV players honestly take the Role names completely at face value, DPS need to DPS, Healers need to Heal and Tanks need to Tank don't do anything else.
    If you suggest a mit plan in anything other then ultimates you will not get far. It’s kinda hilarious how many tools specific jobs have but don’t use. Self responsibility has gone down the drain for quick some time now.
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  8. #7168
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    The only time I play healer anymore till they make big changes is when leveling them or doing solo content. Healers use to be fun to play till they removed so much from them.
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  9. #7169
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    Kozmakis's Avatar
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    Pencho Gipsa
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    Twintania
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    The only time I play healer anymore till they make big changes is when leveling them or doing solo content. Healers use to be fun to play till they removed so much from them.
    Ah, solo content, you have just reminded me of a funny story! I was going through MSQ as Sage and I litetally solo-ed FATEs half-dressed with ShB gear from my WHM (gear is overrated outside difficult content), just with Kardia and Dosis spam. Then I started leveling Samurai, spent over 2k poetics on full lvl 50 gear, even got some Materia + Chocobo companion (granted it was only level 2, because who needs that when solo-ing as a healer?!...) and it was funny how I much needed to focus - rotate Second Wind, Bloodbath, and spam Third Eye on top of the DPS rotation - to try to kill a "boss-like" FATE mob Sometimes I even had to retreat, as I aggroed unintentionally a random mob, and restart, because I would probably die... And, yes, I probably suck a lot too, because I don't play DPS at all and that is my first DPS job in FFXIV... but with Sage in a similar situation, I just start spamming Dyskrasia instead lol and overhealing with Kerachole from time to time, actively trying to save brain cells from dying In other MMOs I only solo mobs like that as a healer, if it's 4AM and there is literally no one willing to help, otherwise it is a lot busier and time-consuming.
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  10. #7170
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    lets be honest here, at what level do they draw the line and say "look, you must have picked up the basics by now so expect things to get a bit harder"

    lets face it, the healer "role quest" is a joke. all you basically need is Esuna.. about 20 times. its a level 10 spell for a 90 to 100 job quest series. they are not making it easy, easy is well above where the bar is currently set. I dont think assuming basic competency at level cap is too much to ask of anyone. it should be a damn expectation.
    You know, that had me fuming during the role quest. I couldn't help think "for God's sake , I'm past level 90, I KNOW how to use Esuna, can you please throw something a bit more challenging my way?" It honestly felt condescending.
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