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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    The double standard that the battle team shows is still funny to me.

    Ramuh EX tanked by Titan-Egi: "PATCH IT OUT NOW!"

    The literal hardest current content in the game being done with no healer: "That's cool "
    While at it, let's mention how tanks keep getting more/upgraded dps tools that they absolutely don't need for tanking, but it's fine for healers to keep spamming 11111 (and when we do get upgrades, it's like a whopping 10 potency difference)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    The double standard that the battle team shows is still funny to me.

    Ramuh EX tanked by Titan-Egi: "PATCH IT OUT NOW!"

    The literal hardest current content in the game being done with no healer: "That's cool "
    It's almost like Healers are abandoned content or something... Maybe we'll get an update alongside Chocobo companions and Squadrons one of these days.
    (6)

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    Howard Alt-eisen
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 100
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvGxJG0HqtI

    filthy healer, stay where you are.
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    Shara Wilia
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    Phantom
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvGxJG0HqtI

    filthy healer, stay where you are.
    Hardcore clear beyond Ultimate skill requirement made by Neverlands on their alt accounts doesn't prove anything !!! Healers are fine !!!
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvGxJG0HqtI

    filthy healer, stay where you are.
    So not only are heal checks a joke so are damage checks. They really wanna go back to 1.0 FF11 mmo design lol.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I would also like to point out if you watch that video they never press a GCD heal (ie clemency) during uptime. So this was literally done with zero downside to the party other than lack of “healer fixes someone else’s mistake”
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Grainne Gothram
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    So why are healers doing less damage tanks? PLDs are now healers with stronger DPS. There's literally no benefits to taking a healer since DPS is king.

    "95% of the playerbase can't do this, pf can't do this."
    They can, if hector or some other guide maker made a M1S tank only guide or M4S healerless guide, that would start becoming a strat in pf. Pf are sheep who follow guides all it takes is one of them to make one with a non-standard comp before that happens.
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    As a first step bandaid fix just buff all Healers damage to match tanks... Or if they suddenly pretend to be worried about balance, drop down Tank DPS and make the two meet halfway.

    And then they can start working on making Healers have more to do in fights than just spamming one spell.
    (2)

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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    As a first step bandaid fix just buff all Healers damage to match tanks... Or if they suddenly pretend to be worried about balance, drop down Tank DPS and make the two meet halfway.

    And then they can start working on making Healers have more to do in fights than just spamming one spell.
    As much as I would enjoy the utter chaos that would happen if they nerfed tank DPS, I think upping healer DPS would probably be the better choice. I don't know why they deal less damage than tanks. They are both "support" roles that bring something besides their raw DPS, so about equal damage makes sense to me.

    Is this another "but if we make the poor healers press their damage buttons, they won't be able to focus on healing" thing?
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    Is this another "but if we make the poor healers press their damage buttons, they won't be able to focus on healing" thing?
    yeah, we wouldnt be able to focus on something we barely do already. oh.. the stress.

    it would also apparently mean the majority represented by one particular person would be prevented from healing. (not quite sure how, but I am sure they could explain it)
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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