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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyfurr1988 View Post
    no i saw it but its irrelevant. pulsing damage is covered by 1 ogcd. 1. thats not engaging gameplay
    Well we have different opinions then. I think having pulsing damage and auto-attacks as engaging because constant damage means you have to heal more. It similar to how damage is handled in another MMO I play where I main healer. If Auto-attacks as well as pulsing damage both did moderate damage you start thinking more about balancing healing with damage.
    Granted the tool kit in xiv is so hillariously bad this wouldn't be nearly as fun. Though in my ideal world id be playing a healer where oGCD healing was rare and my skill expression is the balance of healing and damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyfurr1988 View Post
    see how you ignored that the 1 ogcd is enough to heal it though... that pulsing damage in a few weeks will be nothing. its barely anything now
    "Granted the tool kit in xiv is so hillariously bad this wouldn't be nearly as fun."

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyfurr1988 View Post
    keep dodging the point.

    you've made the point that casual content has what you claim to be healing responsibility. if that can be done with 1 button then why are you claiming its a thing? its no different to any other casual content.

    if you were actually having to heal more you'd have a point. but you're not having to heal more.
    The claim is that aoe damage is happening slightly more often. As opposed to EW where most of the time all aoe damage was incredibly telegraphed and bursty. That's all.
    I still think healing is bad because the oGCDs are too strong and the damage dealing is bad. Its an observation and some cope coming out of me saying it would be nice if the damage was stronger and crafted gear didn't ruin it even though I know it will. I think you're looking for an argument over nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyfurr1988 View Post
    so are you now claiming it's not telegraphed? its not more often at all you just have blinders on.
    I consider pulsing damage not as telegraphed as opposed to a stack up yes. I was a bit surprised to see during the final trial damage ticking down without the boss doing a harrowing hell like animation. I don't really have a strong opinion on this so I'm not really debating lol. I just liked the pulsing damage and the small heal check on the expert dungeon even though they're easy to deal with. The extent of my opinion goes "Oh that's neat, hope that happens more often and becomes more relevant/harder to deal with."
    Also I use arguement and debate interchangeably so I'm not accusing you of anything. I just think you'll have a better conversation with someone who actually feels any form of passion to healing in this game. I find it so boring that a boss ticking down hp during a mechanic has been the highlight for me in the last 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Well we have different opinions then. I think having pulsing damage and auto-attacks as engaging because constant damage means you have to heal more. It similar to how damage is handled in another MMO I play where I main healer. If Auto-attacks as well as pulsing damage both did moderate damage you start thinking more about balancing healing with damage.
    Granted the tool kit in xiv is so hillariously bad this wouldn't be nearly as fun. Though in my ideal world id be playing a healer where oGCD healing was rare and my skill expression is the balance of healing and damage.
    see how you ignored that the 1 ogcd is enough to heal it though... that pulsing damage in a few weeks will be nothing. its barely anything now

    keep dodging the point.

    you've made the point that casual content has what you claim to be healing responsibility. if that can be done with 1 button then why are you claiming its a thing? its no different to any other casual content.

    if you were actually having to heal more you'd have a point. but you're not having to heal more.
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    Last edited by Lucyfurr1988; 07-04-2024 at 10:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    The claim is that aoe damage is happening slightly more often. As opposed to EW where most of the time all aoe damage was incredibly telegraphed and bursty. That's all.
    I still think healing is bad because the oGCDs are too strong and the damage dealing is bad. Its an observation and some cope coming out of me saying it would be nice if the damage was stronger and crafted gear didn't ruin it even though I know it will. I think you're looking for an argument over nothing.
    so are you now claiming it's not telegraphed? its not more often at all you just have blinders on.

    the only thing i agree with you on is that its cope.

    an argument and a discussion are 2 very different things btw. just cause I'm not shying away from a discussion by trying to hide my replies behind changing my write ups to reply to messages that have come later doesn't mean I'm looking for a fight.

    a discussion and a debate is healthy. why are you in forums where that's bound to happen if you're going to accuse people of looking for an argument when they disagree with what you're saying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I consider pulsing damage not as telegraphed as opposed to a stack up yes. I was a bit surprised to see during the final trial damage ticking down without the boss doing a harrowing hell like animation. I don't really have a strong opinion on this so I'm not really debating lol. I just liked the pulsing damage and the small heal check on the expert dungeon even though they're easy to deal with. The extent of my opinion goes "Oh that's neat, hope that happens more often and becomes more relevant/harder to deal with."
    it is just as telegraphed. ALL damage is telegraphed. IMO 5x small hits that does the same amount as 1x big hits is no different. you're still not engaging with your kit any more with 1 type than the other.
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