#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Aravell]

The lack of self awareness is truly astonishing.

It is a running joke at this point that people who come in and call us rude are often rude and dismissive in their very first post in this thread.

[Kes13a]

It is a running joke at this point that people who come in and call us rude are often rude and dismissive in their very first post in this thread.

to be fair, its a long thread, they have likely only read the last page... if that.

so, really, these days it is what I would expect. happy they are 'enjoying ast' but they are only 70, so never really played it before. they likely have no idea what was lost.

[Kozmakis]

This whole thread is just 2 things:

Massive crybabies whinning

or

Normal critisim

So, based on your statement, the fact that you are posting in this thread and the fact that there is no constructive criticism in your post, are you calling yourself a "massive crybaby whinning"? And if yes, why? Thanks for the free bump, I guess?...

Your post reads like a joke but honestly, I have gotten hand cramps before from spamming Fall Malefic when progging Savage in Endwalker.

Honestly, it started as a joke, but after going through the JP forums (with Google Translate, which was a headache on its own, but that's a different story) on the topic of the healer strike and having in mind that's the player base the Devs listen to, healers will likely remain the job to "take a break, turn your brain off". So it actually might make sense, nobody's getting any younger and hand cramps are not to be underestimated!

There are a few trash blobs which are awkward, where the first group will start casting (and stop following the tank); in those cases, I find that I'll E. Dosis the first half and then just Icarus to the tank and E. Dyskrasia the rest in one go. At that point, the original group generally finally lumbers over to join us, and I can shift into normal Dyskrasia spam at that point once the target-rich environment is fully assembled.

(In particular I'm thinking of the first pull in Origenics, where the two cyclops can be Extremely Slow to come join the party by the time a group has generally booked it on ahead to the second blob.)

It's also kind of useful when you get a second group of enemies who spawn in where you're already standing; dropping E. Dyskrasia on them in one hit and then moving straight to normal AoE isn't the worst option.

So I don't actually hate the addition of it; it's not the worst option to have in places. But for like... 85% of trash pulls, yeah, I've got time to E. Dosis all the mobs individually while we're on the move.

Honestly, I was assuming what you are saying as well, once the stack of the DoTs was removed it just became such a niche spell... Thanks for the feedback!

[Mortex]

Is this solved by bosses simply doing more damage? Genuinely curious

The problem is that healer vets will really enjoy the role again but every healer derper will not be able to clear the fights. And we can’t have that. As SE told us already.

Like again I was late night bored and did ex 2 and 2 times in a row my cohealers were Whm who both did sup 6k dmg and healed less then me even after slamming the medica 3 button after every single aoe. These people will never clear harder heal checks and are mostly here for the free carries. Like one of them had 57 kills on ex 2 and the highest he parsed was a 2 and not even a 99 in healing.

Like I really had to bite my tongue and not call them bots. I let us wipe once on conga line because i thought these people would medica spam after I did sage shields and did panhaima holos and kercha and then we wiped on the last stack were 6 people were in and I was close to getting into GM jail the next day.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Is this solved by bosses simply doing more damage? Genuinely curious

The problem is that healer vets will really enjoy the role again but every healer derper will not be able to clear the fights. And we can’t have that. As SE told us already[...]

This^ It's a part that has been reiterated ad infinitum within the board.

The amount of GCDs that each player can perform in a fight before the boss dies or enrage can be seen as a 'resource' that players have to choose where to spend them on. I.e. fight lasts for 10 minutes = that's a hard limit of 240 GCDs given to each players without accounting downtimes and shorter/longer recast GCDs.

Going from that as a baseline, so let's say that the fights are set so that healers has to spend 20% of their GCDs on healing or somebody would drop dead NOT incl the usage of oGCDs, that still leaves them with 192 GCDs to allocate elsewhere. But where are we going to allocate them to besides our boring a$$ fillers when:

• We're not allowed to have any buffs, debuffs or god forbid utilities to even maintain;
• Resource management is nadir;
• Mobility & uptime is hardly anything to worry about since 6.0 Trashologification;
• The amount of mistakes another player can make are limited to the amount of mechanics the game vomits. This, in turn also limits the amount of 'safety heals' that a healer can meaningfully throw out.

They can obviously ramp up the damage intake, sure. But how much can they go for that route solely before that starts to wall the lower end players that they're so afraid of doing for many years now? Is low HPS requirement an issue? Yes. Is that the only issue we have? Absolutely not.

[Kes13a]

They can obviously ramp up the damage intake, sure. But how much can they go for that route solely before that starts to wall the lower end players that they're so afraid of doing for many years now? Is low HPS requirement an issue? Yes. Is that the only issue we have? Absolutely not.

lets be honest here, at what level do they draw the line and say "look, you must have picked up the basics by now so expect things to get a bit harder"

lets face it, the healer "role quest" is a joke. all you basically need is Esuna.. about 20 times. its a level 10 spell for a 90 to 100 job quest series. they are not making it easy, easy is well above where the bar is currently set. I dont think assuming basic competency at level cap is too much to ask of anyone. it should be a damn expectation.

[IDontPetLalas]

lets be honest here, at what level do they draw the line and say "look, you must have picked up the basics by now so expect things to get a bit harder"

lets face it, the healer "role quest" is a joke. all you basically need is Esuna.. about 20 times. its a level 10 spell for a 90 to 100 job quest series. they are not making it easy, easy is well above where the bar is currently set. I dont think assuming basic competency at level cap is too much to ask of anyone. it should be a damn expectation.

You know, that had me fuming during the role quest. I couldn't help think "for God's sake , I'm past level 90, I KNOW how to use Esuna, can you please throw something a bit more challenging my way?" It honestly felt condescending.

[Striker44]

You know, that had me fuming during the role quest. I couldn't help think "for God's sake , I'm past level 90, I KNOW how to use Esuna, can you please throw something a bit more challenging my way?" It honestly felt condescending.

Disappointingly, you'd be surprised...I was just in The Dead Ends last night where missing a mechanic throws that cleansable debuff on you that kills you if not cleansed in time...let's just say random DPS duo got hit multiple times (sadly, I was one of them), and only once near the end of the fight did the healer use Esuna. There's just so few cases where it's actually necessary to cleanse something that I wouldn't be surprised if a fair portion of your random, typical healers forgot it even exists.

[Jojoya]

You know, that had me fuming during the role quest. I couldn't help think "for God's sake , I'm past level 90, I KNOW how to use Esuna, can you please throw something a bit more challenging my way?" It honestly felt condescending.

I think it was added to remind players that Esuna exists. Most healers don't use Esuna at all these days short of something like Doom (and sometimes not even then).

[Mortex]

Also I’m on Handy and here is 1 of the logs without name and I’m the sage. Pls tell me how something like this is ok for the love of god. https://www.fflogs.com/reports/a:cmC...4yYnQ9#fight=4