#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[SigmarrIrenesch]

Maybe you should stop blaming bad players on the healer strike...

Healer strike, or the bad apples using it as an excuse? I don't think I ever said anything bad about the strike itself.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Healer strike, or the bad apples using it as an excuse? I don't think I ever said anything bad about the strike itself.

Honestly I see little to no mention of the Healer strike in game at all, and it's become less topical outside of this thread in general.

Unless they commented on it, I don't think the strike was to blame or even a pretext on this person's mind.

Just definitely seems like a troll, especially since they suddenly knew how to heal with it was their own life at stake. We had those before the strike and will after.

I think overall they are uncommon, at least.

[GrimGale]

Healer strike, or the bad apples using it as an excuse? I don't think I ever said anything bad about the strike itself.

Unfortunately people are using "bad healers" to deligitimize the strike as a way to handwave away the issues raised with the role. "You can't complain or demand changes to the role because there are bad healers there that can't even perform the bare minimum healing." is a take often repeated in this thread (and I am personally starting to get really tired of it).

[Kes13a]

Unfortunately people are using "bad healers" to deligitimize the strike as a way to handwave away the issues raised with the role. "You can't complain or demand changes to the role because there are bad healers there that can't even perform the bare minimum healing." is a take often repeated in this thread (and I am personally starting to get really tired of it).

yes it is tiring, but making the role even EASIER isnt the answer. because then people will just get worse. people playing just dont feel the responsibility anymore thats why the roles like tank and healer are "scary"

who we blame for that? the parents?

anyway, no one disagrees that there are some that dont want to do the bare minimum. we just need to ensure the game teaches them that at least (which it barely does, DT healer role quest writer I am looking at you) and for that.. SE needs to step up.

[LyraShu]

Wanting healers to be better is all fine and dandy, I started as a WHM and would love to see a more complex version of it someday, but can grumpy strikers please stop queueing as healers and making everything that much worse for everyone? I've wanted to get back into tanking, but it feels like 90% of the time I get a healer who is so fed up with the game and has decided to make it everyone else's problem.

Dear SGE, yes, I am a WAR, but this is the Sunken Temple of Qarn. I don't have the insane self-sustain at this level. Why is the Kardia on you? Stop spamming Eukrasian Prognosis on the DRG, I am literally dying to single pack pulls here, you absolute cretin. Also I saw you using your entire kit to keep yourself alive when I ate shit and died. I am going to scream. Just a crumb of healing I am begging you.

Also, what is this current trend of SCHs not having their fairy out? Does anyone have Esuna on their hotbar? Why are you suddenly wanting to tank as AST? What is the meaning of life? Why do I even exist?

Oof, ya report them for trolling. THAT is not a healer or someone that I think is apart of the strike, but I have no proof in either direction. I can say that strikers have, more or less, decided to not use the healer roles as part of duty finder so, while I see it as unlikely, there is no proof of every striker taking up that mantle.

Please, for anyone that reads this, if you encounter someone in duty finder that is actively trolling or making your playtime harder from playing against the party, report them, kick them, and hopefully they get their accounts in GM jail or more. Personally, I believe that if you join a queue, you should be ready to play what job you queue with.

[Kes13a]

Oof, ya report them for trolling. THAT is not a healer or someone that I think is apart of the strike, but I have no proof in either direction. I can say that strikers have, more or less, decided to not use the healer roles as part of duty finder so, while I see it as unlikely, there is no proof of every striker taking up that mantle.

Please, for anyone that reads this, if you encounter someone in duty finder that is actively trolling or making your playtime harder from playing against the party, report them, kick them, and hopefully they get their accounts in GM jail or more. Personally, I believe that if you join a queue, you should be ready to play what job you queue with.

I agree, report or kick them like you would anyone else for greifing.

[Themarvin]

I had dinner earlier...

[CaptainLagbeard]

I'd say that if Tanks can have DPS kits, Healers should be able to have at least the same level of DPS... So either nuke all the tanks damage output and just slap on Enmity boosts to their attacks, or make Healers better.

If there's people who can speak Japanese and can actually manage to talk to the developers, maybe they could hammer them with questions on why Tanks are allowed DPS kits if healers aren't... Just as "Healers should heal", Tanks should just tank.

[Somnolence]

tanks are allowed DPS kits if healers aren't... Just as "Healers should heal", Tanks should just tank.

Offtanks don't tank, so its only natural tank jobs needs to have proper melee DPS gameplay loop.

Problem is, in 8 man content two healers don't get two healers worth amount of healing to do either.

This is very common in casual content. Everybody that plays a healer and done alliance roulette has run into a situation where your co-healer spams Medica 2 or w/e so there is literally nothing for you to do than to broil. You are effectively forced into "off-healer" position, but the game systems do not support this at all.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Offtanks don't tank, so its only natural tank jobs needs to have proper melee DPS gameplay loop.

Problem is, in 8 man content two healers don't get two healers worth amount of healing to do either.

This is very common in casual content. Everybody that plays a healer and done alliance roulette has run into a situation where your co-healer spams Medica 2 or w/e so there is literally nothing for you to do than to broil. You are effectively forced into "off-healer" position, but the game systems do not support this at all.

Yea, Tanks aren't always just tanking, but like I said, by the same logic that "Healers should heal", tanks should not have DPS either and they should just tank. Their entire purpose of their attacks could easily be replaced by bringing back Flash. By the same logic that they're using to keep healers the way they are, Tanks should have nothing but Flash and way too much Mitigation.