#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Aword3213]

As a DPS player I used to have absolute trust that healers had my back if things went sideways. I don't really have that faith as much these days. I have run into far too many healers who have the attitude of DPS don't get heals unless they happen to be caught in an area heal. I also have run into many that will not rez a DPS even after a fight no matter what. So I go into dungeons these days being pretty darn careful that I keep my 2nd wind at the ready and a stack of potions too boot. If I die I run back just as I did years ago in WoW. I find it sad how things have changed really.

I think it may be the direct result of lowering bars of entry expansions over expansions.

Healers nowadays are so used to NOT healing. Whenever they make mistakes or perform abysmally bad, there are others that can clean up the mess. RDM and SMN can Raise. Tanks can sustan themselves for a long period of time and use their personal mit to save other teammates. WAR is invincinble. DPS has access to either high potency shields, HP regen, or HP restore.

No to mention healing requirement in casual content is too low to begin with. Damage interval from boss is long and slow. Healers can still get clears even if they completely disregard party's HP bar throughout the fight. Therefore, whenever situation arises, they're not ready to handle it. They don't know how to heal efficiently. They panic heal with Medica II when one dps has bleeding dot at critical HP. The envionment enables the existence of such healers, and I'm afraid there will be more of them in the future. Luckily, our loving Yoshi-p has forsaw it and deemed it neccessay to give DPS more healing tools to compensate in DT.

[PercibelTheren]

I agree actually but this sort of thing really could be part of the reason there is so much pushback to the strike. There is a fairly common perception I am seeing being muttered about in game. Some DPS players that have little sympathy with the healers situation since they don't perceive many healers as doing their role as it is.

Before I get attacked I have repeatedly in this thread supported you guys and the strike. I still do. I am just reporting what I am hearing in game and trying to do it in a civil manner.

Yeah, bad healers exist. That's the one thing that's annoying me about switching to DPS. I am LOVING Dancer. However, the healers I get in my roulettes are a mixed bag. I have had some absolutely amazing ones, most of them were perfectly passable and some who were asleep at the wheel. It's giving me the "I guess if I want something done well, I need to do it myself" feeling. But I refuse to go back to healing, at least for a long while, because it burned me out for months at a time.

[ZephyrMenodora]

some who were asleep at the wheel

I've had healers apologize for letting people die because they completely admitted to being asleep at the wheel, just in a Glare-trance and not paying attention whatsoever. They literally will say "Sorry didn't notice" as they spam their dps skill. At this point healers don't even feel like they need to look at HP bars at times.

Design that allows healers to mostly get away with this in many circumstances needs to be looked at.

It's not even always malicious, sometimes it's just an honest mistake - one caused by the game's design IMO.

[MisterNublet]

I've had healers apologize for letting people die because they completely admitted to being asleep at the wheel, just in a Glare-trance and not paying attention whatsoever. They literally will say "Sorry didn't notice" as they spam their dps skill. At this point healers don't even feel like they need to look at HP bars at times.

Design that allows healers to mostly get away with this in many circumstances needs to be looked at.

It's not even always malicious, sometimes it's just an honest mistake - one caused by the game's design IMO.

Also literally falling asleep behind the keyboard. The amount of times I've nodded off while doing msq dungeons and expert, you'd think I'd have narcolepsy. Nope, just healer gameplay.

[PercibelTheren]

I've had healers apologize for letting people die because they completely admitted to being asleep at the wheel, just in a Glare-trance and not paying attention whatsoever. They literally will say "Sorry didn't notice" as they spam their dps skill. At this point healers don't even feel like they need to look at HP bars at times.

Design that allows healers to mostly get away with this in many circumstances needs to be looked at.

It's not even always malicious, sometimes it's just an honest mistake - one caused by the game's design IMO.

I'm guilty of nearly letting tanks drop dead, too. Usually Warriors. I'm so used to them requiring zero input from me that I'm there spamming my AoE and the tank is nearly dead before I realize they didn't use Bloodwhetting.

[OranKells]

about 350 likes on the main post.
about 4750 posts.

that feels like the definition of being ratio'd if I ever saw one.

There are legitimate criticism about healing in this game but this.... whatever this is ain't it guys.

[Hellebore_Ghrian]

I'm guilty of nearly letting tanks drop dead, too. Usually Warriors. I'm so used to them requiring zero input from me that I'm there spamming my AoE and the tank is nearly dead before I realize they didn't use Bloodwhetting.

It's not so rare nowadays, happened some days ago :



Current healing design is already giving bad habits and it will only get worse.

[hunter2]

about 350 likes on the main post.
about 4750 posts.

that feels like the definition of being ratio'd if I ever saw one.

There are only about 600-700 unique posters in the thread

[PercibelTheren]

It's not so rare nowadays, happened some days ago :



Current healing design is already giving bad habits and it will only gets worse.

I think the insane Warrior sustain is also teaching Warriors bad habits. Namely, using zero mitigation because they're so used to just healing right back up.

[Derio]

Its really just a wait and see the encounter design at this point. Many people are going for the whole wait till 8.0 for job identity though.