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  1. #4801
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paine_Blackstar View Post
    2- Her feedback is based on limited experience. Healers and tanks need to be this powerful for hard content and no healer strike will prevent this.
    Except that is just blatantly not true. If you go look at the latest ultimate clears, you know the hardest content in the game, you will find that the healers STILL use 70%+ of their GCDs on damage. Even on the really low ranked clears.
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  2. #4802
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Except that is just blatantly not true. If you go look at the latest ultimate clears, you know the hardest content in the game, you will find that the healers STILL use 70%+ of their GCDs on damage. Even on the really low ranked clears.
    (Before you ask no I’m not good enough to do it myself and I respect the hell out of them for it)

    The fact that it’s even mathematically possible to clear TOP without healers is blatant proof that healer kits aren’t being tested. If your kit can put out 75k HPS and the content is only asking for like 10,000 then no your kit isn’t being challenged
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    SE has never cared about healers and I feel bad for all the healer mains in the game.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  4. #4804
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    It's literally not..you can Google it. Multiple sources will confirm to you that ratiod == a reply that has more likes than the post it is replying to.

    https://www.capitalfm.com/internet/r...y%20been%20%22
    You can Google it right?

    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-ratio-ratioed

    https://www.dataforprogress.org/the-ratio-richter-scale

    https://www.howtogeek.com/721651/wha...-social-media/
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  5. #4805
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    my apologies for not noticing this earlier but...

    (not singling you out by the way) how can we assume that some who has played through 80 and now 90 levels is going to be an "overwhelmed newbie". I mean, I am all for accessibility etc but at what point do people stop being "new" and actually can be reasonably expect to know how to play? right now SE keeps lowering the skill floor, though its currently a skill sub basement, because the devs seem to treat all current content like it should be accessible to a level 10 understanding player.
    I agree with you, believe me. I'm also of the opinion that lvl 90 players should no longer be treated with kid gloves because they have had over a hundred hours to learn their jobs. It's just that I see the argument that we need to ensure casual players can do the MSQ really often. And if Hydaelyn Normal was a problem, then idk anymore.

    Pesonally, I'm of the opinion that the game should slowly ramp up in difficulty while offering support for players to improve at their jobs. Not knowing the basics by 80+ is stupid. I don't mind that people want to treat FFXIV as a single player game but, even on easy mode, even most single player RPGs I've encountered required at least some level of competency to get through.
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  6. #4806
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    > Citation Needed
    There are indeed some snarky comments in some of the threads but I honestly fail to see how different that is from Striker's usual white knighting and being contrarian when there's any negative feedback.
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  7. #4807
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    I also enjoy how this thread grows but also sometimes I see it lose pages from peoples excessive snarkiness getting removed.
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  8. #4808
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    1. None of the sources in know your meme are using the term "ratio'd". It's a very specific and modern term used commonly on x.com and it has nothing to do with replies. I already sourced it with a link.

    2. Same issue

    3. Have nothing to do with x.com

    The user said "that's the definition of being ratio'd". Sorry but take your L.

    If you go to x.com right now and search the word, numerous examples will come up showing that people are talking about tweets where the reply has more likes than the tweet it is responding to.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-24-2024 at 03:54 PM.

  9. #4809
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    1. None of the sources in know your meme are using the term "ratio'd". It's a very specific and modern term used commonly on x.com and it has nothing to do with replies. I already sourced it with a link.

    2. Same issue

    3. Have nothing to do with x.com
    1. The Ratio or Ratioed refers to an unofficial Twitter law which states that if the amount of replies to a tweet greatly outnumbers the number of retweets and likes, then the tweet is bad.

    2. One simple, popular way to measure the quality of a tweet is its Ratio -- the number of replies divided by the number of favorites (or, in the ever fluid language of Twitter, likes) it receives.

    3. The term "ratio" was likely coined around 2017, although its exact origin is unknown. However, one of the big reasons it took off was an article from Esquire discussing the importance of "The Ratio" on Twitter.

    I don't know if you're just trying to be deliberately obtuse or what but nobody who actually frequents Twitter on a regular basis calls it X.
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  10. #4810
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    1. The Ratio or Ratioed refers to an unofficial Twitter law which states that if the amount of replies to a tweet greatly outnumbers the number of retweets and likes, then the tweet is bad.

    2. One simple, popular way to measure the quality of a tweet is its Ratio -- the number of replies divided by the number of favorites (or, in the ever fluid language of Twitter, likes) it receives.

    3. The term "ratio" was likely coined around 2017, although its exact origin is unknown. However, one of the big reasons it took off was an article from Esquire discussing the importance of "The Ratio" on Twitter.

    I don't know if you're just trying to be deliberately obtuse or what but nobody who actually frequents Twitter on a regular basis calls it X.
    The user said "ratio'd" it's specific slang and you're wrong.

    My original post about it had over 10 likes last time I checked. Call me when yours does. It's common knowledge. I don't like to be dismissive but you're arguing something you have no idea about.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...atio%E2%80%99d

    It is not "ratio" nor "ratioed"

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6494993

    Actually it has 24. So yeah I'm not sure what to tell you. Just for posterity here is the term he used:

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    Quote Originally Posted by OranKells View Post
    about 350 likes on the main post.
    about 4750 posts.

    that feels like the definition of being ratio'd if I ever saw one.

    There are legitimate criticism about healing in this game but this.... whatever this is ain't it guys.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-24-2024 at 04:06 PM.

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