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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Saying "no it isn't" over and over isn't going to change anything. Try walking around criticizing people in front of their friends, family and co-workers. Let me know how much everyone "appreciates" your help.

    Has nothing to do with me; I'm just explaining how the world works to you. Criticizing people in public is confrontational and rude. Learn how to interact with people if you want to be a teacher.
    As Lucy was pointing out, simply giving advice is not the same as calling someone out. In your quoted comment here, you again equate suggestions to "criticizing" people. Up above in some of your earlier comments, you're implying those who have no qualms about giving advice are non-casual tryhards who don't care about being rude.

    Varying opinions are fine, and there is no problem with expressing one's thoughts. That's kind of how conversations go. However, any point you may have been trying to make is getting lost in your inability to leave the gross exaggerations, blanket statements and snide comments out of the conversation. I'm not saying you're the only one doing this, but I'd say you definitely take the cake.

    Honestly, if this is how you react to rather mundane viewpoints on what is & isn't acceptable in a group-setting, it's no wonder you view any unsolicited advice given in an open-setting to be hostile and rude. You've made a mountain out of a molehill, and all I can say at this point is that I strongly disagree with you. We'll have to agree to disagree.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 07-23-2020 at 01:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    As Lucy was pointing out, simply giving advice is not the same as calling someone out. In your quoted comment here, you again equate suggestions to "criticizing" people. Up above in some of your earlier comments, you're implying those who have no qualms about giving advise are non-casual tryhards who don't care about being rude.

    Varying opinions are fine, and there is no problem with expressing one's thoughts. That's kind of how conversations go. However, any point you may have been trying to make is getting lost your inability to leave the gross exaggerations, blanket statements and snide comments out of the conversation. I'm not saying you're the only one doing this, but I'd say you definitely take the cake.

    Honestly, if this is how you react to rather mundane viewpoints on what is & isn't acceptable in a group-setting, it's no wonder you view any unsolicited advice given in an open-setting to be hostile and rude. You've made a mountain out of a molehill, and all I can say at this point is that I strongly disagree with you. We'll have to agree to disagree.
    I explained how and why it's rude; Lucy responded with "no it isn't; you're just sensitive."

    I'm not sure why you're trying to act like I disregarded a real point someone made. People are being snarky and dismissive, so I'm doing it back. If they attempt to make real points I'll address them. I'm aware that you disagree with me; your bias in these little assessments of the argument you're creating makes that clear as day. You're free to agree to disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy_Pyre View Post
    And if I go into that roulette with a PvE mentor crown on then it actually is. So that entirely invalidates your whole point. Of course the majority of mentors in this game are completely in the group of players who need to be told how to play, but that's beyond the point.
    I would agree that entering an instance with a Mentor crown creates a better context for offering unsolicited advice. People may still not want the advice, but the game itself has placed you in a teaching role, so your teaching is appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I would agree that entering an instance with a Mentor crown creates a better context for offering unsolicited advice. People may still not want the advice, but the game itself has placed you in a teaching role, so your teaching is appropriate.
    Finally, something reasonable that actually makes sense.
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