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  1. #411
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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Zalera
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Yes I understand all those arguments and even agree with some of them, but how does using an NPC 6-button kit in a solo duty help a player get better with the job they play in group content?
    As some people like to say -- derisively, I might add -- "Read your tooltips."

    There is some amount of skill in simply reading what a button does and thinking logically about how it might fit in with other buttons and the combat around you. It is actually an important part of the leveling experience to ask yourself, "Why did the game give me this action or trait? When should I use it?"

    If you get thrown into one of those play-as-an-NPC solo duties and lack the curiosity to read your tooltips, you might very well lack the curiosity needed to get through any other bit of combat this game throws at you.
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  2. #412
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    hunter2's Avatar
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    Hoon Tahtoo
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    Better to have the haircut for 20M (and falling) on the marketboard than $10 in the mogstation, surely? Tradable rewards like this are great, they can be a prize in FC/venue giveaways, they can be a gift to an in-game friend, it's something to spend your money on, and with the new reward system it's motivation for experienced raiders to help newcomers clear the content.
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  3. #413
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    AntoniusQuil's Avatar
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    Antonius Bnuuy
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter2 View Post
    Better to have the haircut for 20M (and falling) on the marketboard than $10 in the mogstation, surely? Tradable rewards like this are great, they can be a prize in FC/venue giveaways, they can be a gift to an in-game friend, it's something to spend your money on, and with the new reward system it's motivation for experienced raiders to help newcomers clear the content.
    I mean, earning 10$ is generally much quicker than earning 20m gil, so I’ll take online store over above 10 milion gil prices
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  4. #414
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    Vera Nova
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntoniusQuil View Post
    I mean, earning 10$ is generally much quicker than earning 20m gil, so I’ll take online store over above 10 milion gil prices
    Why are you playing MMOs? If you really want to swipe for everything and make no effort at all then there's gachas for you.
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    Eyestrain thread - https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/501914-Dawntrail-Graphics-Update-Eye-Strain

  5. #415
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    Antonius Bnuuy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    Why are you playing MMOs? If you really want to swipe for everything and make no effort at all then there's gachas for you.
    FFXIV in particular because of the story and really nice cosmetic items / glams (plus really enjoyable pvp)

    I started playing MMOs as a kid, but there comes a point in life where finding the money to buy x item becomes much easier than finding the time to grind for it, and I’ll be honest with how hardcore raiders react to all complaints from more casual players about some stuff being locked behind hardcore riding, it’s nice to see them complaining for a change when stuff like shadow wolf or cruise chaser end up in the online store instead of being locked behind endgame raiding.
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  6. #416
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    It is actually an important part of the leveling experience to ask yourself, "Why did the game give me this action or trait? When should I use it?"
    This actually brings up another issue, XIV is terrible at this.

    After multiple expansions of them not doing anything about the leveling experience and when skills are acquired you often find yourself asking "Why did the game give me this action or trait?" and the answer will be "I have no clue."

    Role abilities are a good example, you get Interject at level 18 but when do you actually use it? Basically never in 95% of content. Which is why you see groups wiping on the Ark Angels in Jeuno because all 3 tanks and X amount of phys ranged forgot they even had the skill.
    Or why does Warrior from level 40 to 50 have to use it's AoE combo to gain Storm's Eye?
    Why does Ninja get Trick Attack at level 18 but can't actually use it in combat until 45?
    Etc

    At this point the job kits below at least level 70 are just incomprehensible and for newer jobs even that isn't high enough to make them function properly.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 01-04-2025 at 12:31 AM.

  7. #417
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    NamiRocket's Avatar
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    Nami Fhaeroa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    No, no. The term I used is vocal majority
    Nah, you're wrong. But being wrong is fine. Everyone is wrong sometimes, some people more than others.
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  8. #418
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    Memento Mori
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AntoniusQuil View Post
    I mean, earning 10$ is generally much quicker than earning 20m gil, so I’ll take online store over above 10 milion gil prices
    People like you who don't want to earn anything are ruining gaming.
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  9. #419
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    MrJPtheAssassin's Avatar
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    Rose Blackstorm
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hunter2 View Post
    Better to have the haircut for 20M (and falling) on the marketboard than $10 in the mogstation, surely? Tradable rewards like this are great, they can be a prize in FC/venue giveaways, they can be a gift to an in-game friend, it's something to spend your money on, and with the new reward system it's motivation for experienced raiders to help newcomers clear the content.
    Personally, I take the $10 on the cash shop and here's why...CAR, like other content of its kind, will not have a long shelf life. When the content ends up dieing so will the amount of it rewards on the MB. Right now, yes, there are a lot of hairstyles and its price is going down, but in 6 months and farther, this likely won't be the case. As ppl stop running CODCAR the amount of hairstyle on MB will drop and in turn its price will rise again as it becomes rarer and rarer. Now is a hairstyle on the cash shop will most likely always be there and the price will always be $10 unless SQ runs a sale(which they do a couple times a year).

    That said, I would rather it not be a cash shop item but instead be in content that will have a long shelf life over content that doesn't but if my only two choice were put in CODCAR or the cash shop I would pick the cash shop every time just for the security of it always being there at a stable price.
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    Last edited by MrJPtheAssassin; 01-04-2025 at 01:52 AM.

  10. #420
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    Personally I take the $10 on the cash shop and here's why...CAR, like other content of its kind, will not have a long shelf life. When the content ends up dieing so will the amount of it rewards on the MB. Right now, yes, there are a lot of hairstyles and its price is going down, but in 6 months and farther, this likely won't be the case. As ppl stop running CODCAR the amount of hairstyle on MB will drop and in turn its price will rise again as it becomes rarer and rarer. Now is a hairstyle on the cash shop will most likely always be there and the price will always be $10 unless SQ runs a sale(which they do a couple times a year).

    That said, I would rather it not be a cash shop item but instead be in content at will have a long shelf life over content that doesnt.
    Trying to design all possible rewards for a nebulous future player who may want the reward in 3 years time is near pointless in a game that doesn’t take steps to maintain its content.

    Even in areas people usually point to as sustainable long form content (which I love) eureka and Bozja they don’t actually function like they did day 1 they basically just nerfed them into being soloable once they had reached the end of their expansion. Same as “maintaining” rewards for old savage which is basically just “lol unsync it”

    If the game isn’t going to maintain all its content (which is extremely difficult as all content that is group content is almost impossible to maintain its integrity while also ensuring both old and new rewards are equally useful) then limiting rewards by the thought of a nebulous future player is just an exercise in ensuring every reward we ever get can be bought with tomestones or in the gold saucer
    (2)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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