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  1. #281
    Player LibitIncarne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    Why can the winner not get the hair? Are they refusing to do the content or buy it off the market board?
    Why shouldn't the hairstyle's creator be given the hairstyle through the mail by the GMs, regardless of how difficult or not it is to obtain?
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  2. #282
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    Lilapop's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibitIncarne View Post
    Why shouldn't the hairstyle's creator be given the hairstyle through the mail by the GMs, regardless of how difficult or not it is to obtain?
    That isn't even mentioned in my reply or what I replied to. It's said they cannot get the hair. What is preventing them from doing so? Why can seemingly every other player get the hair except for them?
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  3. #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    But the question is "why are some of you so entitled?".

    It's a videogame. You're buying the content. You aren't directly buying all of the possible rewards.

    When devs try to people please by making everything for everyone, they end up making too many compromises and making everything for no one. If you want the rewards, do the content that offers the rewards. If you don't want to do the content, you don't get the rewards. In this case, the marketboard is an alternate avenue to the rewards for people who don't want to do the content so I really don't understand what the fuss is about.
    Finally someone said it more eloquently than I can.
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  5. #284
    Player AllenThyl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    But that's exactly what's happening here, casuals got nothing while hardcore gets everything, and the moment the casuals asked for even a tiny crumb (a hairstyle from a contest where even the winner can't get the hair) they're immediately called entitled brats and told to go back and starve in the corner.

    The OP came right out the gate swinging, wanting to make it casual vs. hardcore right away, so it's a bit disingenuous for you or anyone else to be yelling "hey, no hitting back!" when they literally started it.
    No developer team in the world can churn out quality "casual" content (i.e. easy to clear on first attempt) fast enough for the "one and done" crowd to be satisfied. And if there is some some kind of grind to increase the longevity a bit, then all the "I am a single dad of 6 kids working 85 hours a week" come out again. And if there is low dropchance, there will be complaints about it "never dropping".
    Maybe, just maybe, only ever playing the easiest of the easiest content this game has to offer while ignoring practically every experience the devs cobble together, is at a certain part more the fault of the customer. If you buy a ticket to a theme park and then spend all your time at one fast food stand, that is your prerogative. But complaining about how there isn't anything to do but eating food at that fast food stand, because you don't like rides, don't want to see any parks, are scared of ghosts and loud noises, hate crowds and watching shows ... well, maybe it's about time to start learning how to manage one's own expectations.
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  6. #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    And you're okay with this? What you're describing is a job.
    If it weren't for rewards, there would be an abundance of people that would refuse to do the content because they aren't getting anything in return. It's a big reason why a majority of content dies out fast, people get their rewards as quick as they can so they never have to do it again, there's no reason to for them, especially when the game is aimed towards casuals and something like a hairstyle can be earned in high end content like this.

    Nowhere in my comment did I say "I'm okay with something like hairstyles being behind high end content", I'm simply pointing out something that should be common sense by now.
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  7. #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    No developer team in the world can churn out quality "casual" content (i.e. easy to clear on first attempt) fast enough for the "one and done" crowd to be satisfied.
    How detached from reality do you need to be to think that the casual and midcore community want one-and-done content, when a massive part of the uproar they are making is exactly that all they have been getting is some one-and-done stuff rather than anything grindable with longevity?

    How do I even argue with you when the very premise under your argument is a failure to understand what the group you disparage even wants, to begin with?

    EDIT: Let me add to that; How are so many people in this thread claiming that the casuals just want every reward dumped into their inventories without doing anything for it, while at the same time this entire forum is aflame with threads from casual players wanting to play content and there not being any for them? This is utter cognitive dissonance.
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    Last edited by Eyrilona; 01-02-2025 at 09:24 AM.

  8. #287
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrilona View Post
    EDIT: Let me add to that; How are so many people in this thread claiming that the casuals just want every reward dumped into their inventories without doing anything for it, while at the same time this entire forum is aflame with threads from casual players wanting to play content and there not being any for them? This is utter cognitive dissonance.
    I'll claim it. People would legitimately complain less if the reward were put on the mogstation for $5 instead of something you actually have to play the game for. In fact, they DID put exclusive hair on the mogstore for $5 and there was barely even a grumble about it. People's priorities and expectations are broken.
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  9. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    I'll claim it. People would legitimately complain less if the reward were put on the mogstation for $5 instead of something you actually have to play the game for. In fact, they DID put exclusive hair on the mogstore for $5 and there was barely even a grumble about it. People's priorities and expectations are broken.
    Dude just hit the nail on the head. People are more okay with a hairstyle requiring a real money payment in a premium subscription game than coming from non-casual content.
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  10. #289
    Player AllenThyl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrilona View Post
    How detached from reality do you need to be to think that the casual and midcore community want one-and-done content, when a massive part of the uproar they are making is exactly that all they have been getting is some one-and-done stuff rather than anything grindable with longevity?

    How do I even argue with you when the very premise under your argument is a failure to understand what the group you disparage even wants, to begin with?
    Then what's the problem? You already done with all the other "causal" / "midcore" grinds this game has to offer?
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  11. #290
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    Dude just hit the nail on the head. People are more okay with a hairstyle requiring a real money payment in a premium subscription game than coming from non-casual content.
    Exactly the same story with the axolotl from P12.

    Cute mount in the cash shop: I sleep.
    Cute mount in savage: Real shit.
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