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  1. #9451
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigore View Post
    Umm, they retracted their statement since there is a glimmer of hope we may have progress. It may be a concern we are only complaining about the situation
    Honestly, I'd say that people have the right to air their criticisms whether they're being heard or not. People don't have to enter threads they don't like nor are they forced to comment in them.

    No one user has the right to be forum police unless they have the moderator tag.
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  2. #9452
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    Let's back up for a moment. I am trying to speak the truth about what is happening and now it feels like I am being silenced for that. Shouldn't I be deserving to voice my criticisms on the matter too?

    I didn't say anything at first since Klu sounded quite snarky at first. Later on, they seemed to have bowed out wishing luck to us and they were still getting demonized for that.
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  3. #9453
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigore View Post
    Let's back up for a moment. I am trying to speak the truth about what is happening and now it feels like I am being silenced for that. Shouldn't I be deserving to voice my criticisms on the matter too?

    I didn't say anything at first since Klu sounded quite snarky at first. Later on, they seemed to have bowed out wishing luck to us and they were still getting demonized for that.
    I'm not seeing who's silencing you here? If anything, they were trying to silence this thread by asking why we're still whining about healers.

    I'm also not demonising anyone. I'm pointing out that if someone dislikes a certain topic, they are not compelled in any way to enter the thread and post a snarky comment.

    They chose to enter a thread and ask why people are still whining about a problem that hasn't been solved in any way, they got pushback for it. It's really just that simple.
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  4. #9454
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigore View Post
    Let's back up for a moment. I am trying to speak the truth about what is happening and now it feels like I am being silenced for that. Shouldn't I be deserving to voice my criticisms on the matter too?

    I didn't say anything at first since Klu sounded quite snarky at first. Later on, they seemed to have bowed out wishing luck to us and they were still getting demonized for that.
    Ah yes, you're being silenced by...uh...freely posting on a public forum.
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  5. #9455
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    I'd argue that whatever distinction may have existed for Class/Jobs is well and truly dead at this point. CNJ as a class was supposed to focus on Earth/Wind/Water magic but they don't even have a Water Spell with Fluid Aura gone. Now, Aqua Veil is the only water skill and it's learned as a WHM so why kneecap the class anymore than it already is just for a bygone distinction that even the Devs have long since abandoned?
    I fail to see how reintroducing a mit/shield to the level 15-30 range and bringing lilies down to the level 30-50 range would "kneecap the class anymore than it already is", pray explain how that logic works.
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  6. #9456
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    White mage isn’t even a class anyway in its current form so it’s not like it changes anything
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    not to mention all they have is a tank and hasnt touched anything else.
    Lmao. Google "forum alt". It works *wonders*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Healer numbers in regular content may not be dropping, but healer quality certainly fell off a cliff.

    Remember all the people coming into this thread after DT launch complaining about "those healerstrikers that only do damage and don't heal"? Yeah, those aren't the healerstrikers, those are the DPS mains that Yoshi P wants desperately to attract to the healer role.

    You get what you design for.
    ... I gonna have to give it to your chief. Healer quality has in fact fallen off a bit, and I don't think I really put the two together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuicyHeals View Post
    You dared to have issues with there god square enix Is the problem
    Their.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigore View Post
    Let's back up for a moment. I am trying to speak the truth about what is happening and now it feels like I am being silenced for that. Shouldn't I be deserving to voice my criticisms on the matter too?

    I didn't say anything at first since Klu sounded quite snarky at first. Later on, they seemed to have bowed out wishing luck to us and they were still getting demonized for that.
    I appreciate it Tigs.

    I see a lot of online whining. I think we all do. Maybe it'd be better if we saw less, I'm 41 and still kinda thinking on that one.

    I see this healer strike thread, and it immediately strikes me as just more self-important whinging into a vacuum, a sort of toddler tantrum complete with stomping feet.

    And I wonder why we still do this. Like how many times has a "strike" in a video game really helped? (Unless said strike included the cancelation of money...)

    So yeah. I came in here and was surprised that this thing still had legs this long after DT dropped. Devs world wide have never been as fluent in any coding language ever conceived as they are in the language of "dont care, didnt ask, gg lawl."

    So why bother?

    Well, as I learned, the state of healer issues has in fact been something Yoshi himself has learned about, and commented in. So there's that.

    I have never seen an event quite like that. Wouldn't have believed it was possible. My hats off to the squeaky wheels.
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  11. 10-18-2024 11:45 PM
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    smh why bother indeed lol

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