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  1. #7821
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SamLeens View Post
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    1) Can you say with 100% certainty that they did test anything when there's been so many bugs and oversights?

    2) If they haven't changed the job again, then it stands that they're perfectly happy with what they did.

    Anything else?
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  2. #7822
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    Shara Wilia
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    It's so so weird how the people trolling and dismissing this strike are never healers, always tanks or dps, but are trying their darnest to keep healers in their sorry state.

    I do wonder what their stances on social strikes or minority rights are in real life, truly a mystery, guess we'll never know...
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  3. #7823
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    Sam Leens
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    1) Can you say with 100% certainty that they did test anything when there's been so many bugs and oversights?

    2) If they haven't changed the job again, then it stands that they're perfectly happy with what they did.

    Anything else?
    1) Instead of not answering again, just say that YOU think this must be the case.

    2) that is what you believe and is not based on any facts.

    I'm glad we were able to clear that up.

    have a great week and lots of fun in final. bye.
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  4. #7824
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamLeens View Post
    1) Instead of not answering again, just say that YOU think this must be the case.

    2) that is what you believe and is not based on any facts.

    I'm glad we were able to clear that up.

    have a great week and lots of fun in final. bye.
    Ah yes, the strongest retort of someone who doesn't have a point to make: "That's what YOU think!".

    I'm glad we could clear up that you're not here for any positive reason. Goodbye.
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  5. #7825
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    Sam Leens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Ah yes, the strongest retort of someone who doesn't have a point to make: "That's what YOU think!".

    I'm glad we could clear up that you're not here for any positive reason. Goodbye.

    Aha.. "Oh yes, the sharpest answer from someone who has nothing to say": Answer a question with a counter-question.
    I would really be interested in your answer, but at this point it's a waste of time.
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  6. #7826
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poqu6p7F8S4
    EX2 too with a PLD tank and 7 DPS.
    I was gonna post about this, but you (soundly) beat me to it.
    I know people will go "it's top players" or "it's inconsistent"... but I still feel this should be impossible.
    I actually went over the log and while the PLD did "sacrifice" himself a bit, casting 9 Clemencies, the RDM only had to cast 2 Vercures (so barely had to deviate from optimal).
    It really shows how potent party mitigation is where it basically can replace two healers as long as people aren't stepping in bad.
    I don't even think this is that hard in terms of execution, the bulk of the work is figuring out the mitigation plan- once that's down it seems to be fairly consistent, just going by their health in most mechanics.
    I don't know how I feel about a game built around a trinity where one of the roles equates 11 gcds in a higher end fight...
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  7. #7827
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    Sotto Voce
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamLeens View Post
    Hello Aravell. I didnt know you had more than one account.
    Finally! A genuine genius has graced this thread.
    After hundreds of pages and thousands of replies, you alone have discovered the great secret!
    It's true.
    We're all Aravell.

    /wtfdidthatreallyjusthappen?
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    WHM
    AST
    BLM

    ...let's all just go play WAR, shall we?

  8. #7828
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    I’m still trying to figure out if I should be honoured or insulted that I’m apparently aravell
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  9. #7829
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    Ayan Calvesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharawiwi View Post
    It's so so weird how the people trolling and dismissing this strike are never healers, always tanks or dps, but are trying their darnest to keep healers in their sorry state.

    I do wonder what their stances on social strikes or minority rights are in real life, truly a mystery, guess we'll never know...
    Honest question - if you had a more complex rotation but did the same damage your currently doing - would that be acceptable?
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  10. #7830
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    Shara Wilia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Honest question - if you had a more complex rotation but did the same damage your currently doing - would that be acceptable?
    Of course ? I've not seen anyone asking for healers to do more than their 8% of the boss (including raid buffs). Hell, I was happy with EW AST because I had to think with the card systems.

    And personally, I'd like if SE stopped butchering every healers job identity to cater to the fabled casual who is stressed about any responsability, and for the sake of over simplification.
    DT has made every healer into a watered down WHM (even WHM is the most bland it has ever been). The consequences of this are obvious and terrible, but many people here explained them already.
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