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    Bobby66's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    On the basis of silent majority argument, people back in StB were fine with all jobs as they were. I'm pretty sure no one had ever asked for homogenization across all jobs in every role.

    I think no one would ever love to see half of their kits got removed.
    Hey I hope you guys are right, but end of the day I still do content as healers, and playing the game. I hope this garners the change people want. I also miss old healers I was one of those crazy people that enjoyed cleric stance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    I see good old 'trust me Bro' annecdotes.
    If you want to go back and look at 6 or seven year old threads be my guest. I am not invested enough to do all of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Considering that they got angry at player feedback during the whole Stormblood lilies drama, why should we automatically assume that they're happily taking our feedback after they so publicly rejected it?

    Also, I don't think I need to remind you, but the game also grew in population from ARR to HW and from HW to SB. If those job kits were so hated by this nebulous, unknown, silent majority, surely those expansions should've flopped hard?
    I did not touch WHM, I remember lilies being lackluster and people asking for a slight buff or something. If SE got upset with the community for the feedback fair. I do not recall this.

    No they would not have flopped because the game still had a fanbase, but we cannot deny the growth the game has had since SB, more people are playing. I would argue SB had the perfect balance for the content, not to hard that it turns people off but not to boring that it also pushed people away. That said I know many people that did not enjoy it.

    Unfort I hate admit it but I know more people that want to get rid of things like positional skills, dots, aggro management, find GNB too "busy". As I have said many times I hope you guys get the change you want cause I also miss old healers but I am sorry from what I can tell as someone that runs content on the causal side people seem to still engage with the content as is. I just don't think most people care the way people think they do.

    SE is in a weird spot cause any change to healers or tanks in how they play at this stage risk alienating a larger base. They were able to do this thing like rework how tanks tank and healer kits because to be frank the base that was playing those roles were smaller. With the influx of players the base is larger. I know many people that play tank because they are just easier melee DPS, and I know healers that now player healer that did not before because it is easier and have less to worry about.

    At times I do wonder if the game is for me anymore, idk I play for my friends and I do still enjoy some of the jobs still. Maybe the game is not meant for people that want more outside of certain patch cycles. IDK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    […]At times I do wonder if the game is for me anymore, idk I play for my friends and I do still enjoy some of the jobs still. Maybe the game is not meant for people that want more outside of certain patch cycles. IDK
    Somebody in this forum has eloquently put out a better word before: “FFXIV is like a cheap cafe. Service are… acceptable. Foods & drinks may be average or below average. But it’s a tolerable—even a nice place IF you have friends to hang around together.”
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."