#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Bobby66]

Surely you have sources for this claim that Healers complained about the old healer Design.

Because if you had been active back in the day (or just went to the depths of ~page 80 on wards of the healer Forum) you'd know that No. Even back during Stormblood AST didn't primarily complain about balance fishing but having the least DoTs.
And that WHM's StB lilies were broken.

I am not going to go through that many threads to pull up threads regarding balance fishing, but wasn't that one of the complaints that lead to the card change because many did not enjoy the RNG aspect and how balance was pretty much the only card people wanted? Isn't that why they pretty much made the cards more or less do the same thing to remove that rng element.

I played sch and smn back then.

Edit: Unless what you are saying is SE just makes changes based off their own whims and just state player feedback but are just going based off their own personal feedback. If that is the case then how is this game growing in population? Is the story in itself all that carries this game?

I get hating on SE is fun, but come on.

They also take player feedback into account in their data. (or at least, I hope they do). So a 700 page forum thread with a ton of people expressing distaste with the healer role should probably turn some heads.

Maybe, I just think that most players are fine with healers as they are so I doubt it will turn that many heads at SE. I hope you guys are right. I miss old healers also, I enjoyed cleric stance and old sch.

[Aword3213]

Maybe, I just think that most players are fine with healers as they are so I doubt it will turn that many heads at SE. I hope you guys are right. I miss old healers also, I enjoyed cleric stance and old sch.

On the basis of silent majority argument, people back in StB were fine with all jobs as they were. I'm pretty sure no one had ever asked for homogenization across all jobs in every role.

I think no one would ever love to see half of their kits got removed.

[Sani2341]

I am not going to go through that many threads to pull up threads regarding balance fishing, but wasn't that one of the complaints that lead to the card change because many did not enjoy the RNG aspect and how balance was pretty much the only card people wanted? Isn't that why they pretty much made the cards more or less do the same thing to remove that rng element.

I played sch and smn back then.

Edit: Unless what you are saying is SE just makes changes based off their own whims and just state player feedback but are just going based off their own personal feedback. If that is the case then how is this game growing in population? Is the story in itself all that carries this game?

I get hating on SE is fun, but come on.

I see good old 'trust me Bro' annecdotes.

Also yes, SE not actually listening to Feedback nor at least acknowledge it, at least from non-jp is part of the reason this thread and the Strike got started.

[Aravell]

Unless what you are saying is SE just makes changes based off their own whims and just state player feedback but are just going based off their own personal feedback. If that is the case then how is this game growing in population? Is the story in itself all that carries this game?

Considering that they got angry at player feedback during the whole Stormblood lilies drama, why should we automatically assume that they're happily taking our feedback after they so publicly rejected it?

Also, I don't think I need to remind you, but the game also grew in population from ARR to HW and from HW to SB. If those job kits were so hated by this nebulous, unknown, silent majority, surely those expansions should've flopped hard?

[Venarius]

Now we just need Yoshi P to have a "You think you do, but you don't" moment to complete the circle.

Didn't he tell healers to just go and play ultimates?

[Zaytex]

In a moment of weakness in my ambition to get the Level 100 mount as soon as possible, I decided to queue as Sage into the 95 dungeon for quicker levelling - shouldn't be too bad right? I'm immediately greeted with a WAR who never needs any healing, a melee DPS who bloodbaths everything, and a pictomancer who knows the mechanics. Any unavoidable AOE is immediately mitigated and healed by the WAR as well with their ''shake it off/nascent flash'' abilities.

I didn't even put kardia on anyone, or have to heal anything. I literally just mashed one button for 90% of the encounter and left the dungeon. The WAR being a literal healer and replacing me isn't even the biggest problem, it's that this role just has nothing going for it outside high-end prog. No fun, nothing stimulating, no rotation of DPS buttons or mechanics to do that literally every other role gets to have. I had to put on a youtube video on a second monitor to keep me from falling asleep, how the fuck is this acceptable design for a 5th consecutive year? I just refuse to do it - the healers will be levelled with beast tribes, frontline, and books.

Small rant about my 20 minute experience of being yet again, shocked at how abysmal healing has become and how the developers have had 5 years to fix or improve on this, and instead triple down.

[Silver-Strider]

Is the story in itself all that carries this game?

I'd argue absolutely. I know I tolerated ShB only as well as I did because the story was actually great. The side content wasn't as plentiful as previous expansions but that was fine for me since I just liked the story elements of the expansion. EW however, was terrible and I had even unsubbed for a year because I couldn't give a damn about any of it; The job designs had somehow gotten worse, fight encounters were mid at best (with some exceptions), the side content had 0 longevity, there was literally nothing to keep me playing. With DT's story falling even flatter and job design still falling down a crapshoot, unless the 7.X content is godly to make up for everything thus far (like SB did) than I just don't see how this is even a question or see why anyone would keep an active sub instead of just subbing to play every patch or so.

[OliviaLugria]

Now we just need Yoshi P to have a "You think you do, but you don't" moment to complete the circle.

At least we'll know at that point XD

[Kozmakis]

But hey, even if it might've been a minority who protested against using DPS skills back then and they got their way, maybe this strike, being a minority as well could bring yet another change.

Minorities often drive change because they are typically more passionate, committed, and innovative, with a clear vision and adaptability that enables them to challenge the status quo effectively. As Samuel Adams noted, "It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." In contrast, majorities tend to be more passive, often exhibiting conformity and maintaining the status quo, with individuals feeling less urgency or responsibility to take action, assuming that others will address issues or that existing systems are sufficient. This aligns with Mark Twain's observation that, "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."

[Ramiee]

GZ all on 7000 posts, now for another 7000

It really does feel (and to me, during EW too) that the shoe had swapped feet, that WOW was the underdog that was now fighting to regain the trust of its playerbase after having taken them for granted (with Dragonflight and now The War Within), and SE has become the 'king' that believes it is too large to fail

Wow was never the underdog tbh.
Wow will always eclipse FF14 in popularity.