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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Didn't people talk about this earlier, how the DF isn't actually accurate when someone posted a pic when there was pretty much only tank job showing up?
    Like I've had instant queues when I was a DPS in a queue where healer and/or tanks were showing.
    Yes, as I said, the system has a bias towards showing tanks first. Like how previously, before fixing it, the PVP queue would fill Maelstrom first (so premades would get put on Mael, leading to the perception that Mael wins at PVP more than other teams. The point is, if healers are showing in need for things despite this bias towards tanks, then the healer 'need' is actually really big
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Yes, as I said, the system has a bias towards showing tanks first. Like how previously, before fixing it, the PVP queue would fill Maelstrom first (so premades would get put on Mael, leading to the perception that Mael wins at PVP more than other teams). The point is, if healers are showing in need for things despite this bias towards tanks, then the healer 'need' is actually really big
    I wouldn't say "Really big" personally.
    I have to wait pretty much the same time for roulettes as before, Even with 2 new DPS jobs and a healer strike.
    But I guess the experience might differ from servers / data centers.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Yes, as I said, the system has a bias towards showing tanks first. Like how previously, before fixing it, the PVP queue would fill Maelstrom first (so premades would get put on Mael, leading to the perception that Mael wins at PVP more than other teams. The point is, if healers are showing in need for things despite this bias towards tanks, then the healer 'need' is actually really big
    My personal anecdotal experience usually involves:
    • Seeing tank in need but insta queue on healer 8 out of 10 times
    • Seeing healer in need but about 1 out of 3 times I actually have to wait. Usually no insta queue on two other role if I try to switch around.
    If I have to make a wild guess, it's because the UI takes 6969 years to update. By the time a player sees any icon at all when they open DF, chances are good that it's been on-going for good amount of minutes (and thus have likely taken in the appropriate amount of needed role as well).
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    My personal anecdotal experience usually involves:
    • Seeing tank in need but insta queue on healer 8 out of 10 times
    • Seeing healer in need but about 1 out of 3 times I actually have to wait. Usually no insta queue on two other role if I try to switch around.
    If I have to make a wild guess, it's because the UI takes 6969 years to update. By the time a player sees any icon at all when they open DF, chances are good that it's been on-going for good amount of minutes (and thus have likely taken in the appropriate amount of needed role as well).
    But are people REALLY queuing just for the In Need bonus? Seems like that is just something you get by accident when you queue up for your own reasons. Especially this early in the expansion when people only have one role leveled and so can't easily switch.
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    TsubameMikage's Avatar
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    Celes Miret-njer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    But are people REALLY queuing just for the In Need bonus? Seems like that is just something you get by accident when you queue up for your own reasons. Especially this early in the expansion when people only have one role leveled and so can't easily switch.
    I only ever queued for the "In need" bonus.
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    My personal anecdotal experience usually involves:
    • Seeing tank in need but insta queue on healer 8 out of 10 times
    • Seeing healer in need but about 1 out of 3 times I actually have to wait. Usually no insta queue on two other role if I try to switch around.
    If I have to make a wild guess, it's because the UI takes 6969 years to update. By the time a player sees any icon at all when they open DF, chances are good that it's been on-going for good amount of minutes (and thus have likely taken in the appropriate amount of needed role as well).
    I would say it's more likely because more people are willing to heal for the rewards even if that's not their preferred play style. People are less likely to tank for the role in need rewards because there's a sense of responsibility and pressure even if incredibly small. Healing on the other hand is so braindead and easy, so when it shows healer in need, you get a bunch of tank or DPS players switching for that extra gil.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.